[Pansophy] FW: C75-RI-011 - End Group Serial Numbers ?
E. Anne McEwen
mcewen at jlab.org
Thu Feb 11 17:32:37 EST 2021
Drear Pansophy Team
We have an issue where it seems the SN that was used for the FPC of Cavity C75-RI-011 is not known
The SN was not available in the drop downs for the initial inspections done back in November, then it seems that on the part later the SN was scratch out (see photos)
In Pansophy I am seeing now that SNs are appearing in the drop down for the C20 HOM and FPC travelers - Is it possible to get a list of the SNs that are available in these two travelers , and can you also give a list of which ones have been used so far in cavities ?
I am hoping that by process of elimination we will be able to narrow down the possible serials numbers for the FPC on C75-RI-011 , then by looking very closely at C75-RI-011, once it is available again , we might be able to figure out the original SN
There is a more general problem where for CEBAF there are many old serial numbers - and it becomes difficult to tell by looking at the parts which are valid and which ones have been retired - The NBSN Cavities are a good example of this problem
This cavity will be going into the machine, and for a number of reasons it is important to figure out what might have been the SN for the FPC that was used
Thanks for your help
Anne
From: E. Anne McEwen
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 5:30 PM
To: Ashley Anderson Mitchell <ashleya at JLAB.ORG>
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Subject: RE: C75-RI-011 - End Group Serial Numbers ?
Thanks Ashley - we will look for it
Anne
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Subject: Re: C75-RI-011 - End Group Serial Numbers ?
Anne,
C75-RI-011 is in the tuning room last I saw. It was on a cart with a yellow hold tag on a flange cover.
If it helps, Gigi and I were able to see IA-008 scratched out on the FPC and CEBAF aim the HOMs.
- Ashley Mitchell
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Subject: RE: C75-RI-011 - End Group Serial Numbers ?
Hello Ashely -
As of Tuesday according to the schedule, it looks like you had C75-RI-011 in chemistry , do you know where this cavity has gone and is it accessible ? After Feb 9th it disappears from the schedule so I am not sure where it is now
Gigi would like an investigation to find out what is the SN for the end group , so the next time it is available to us we would like to be able to see it again
Thanks Anne
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Subject: FW: C75-RI-011 - End Group Serial Numbers ?
Hi Scott
I understand you have a list of the Serial numbers for the end groups that we originally cut off - If you have this can you please send it to us
We need to try and figure out what the correct serial number was for this end group before it was scratched out (if possible )
Unfortunately it seems that the serial numbers were not available in the drop downs original traveler when it was first inspected back in November , subsequently it seems that the SN was scratched out on the part - so as a result we may have lost traceability on what end group ended up in this cavity
At this point we can only do our best to try and figure out by process of elimination which end group was used
I will come by in the morning - Thanks for your help
Anne
PS - for some reason this email was sent to my home address - for anyone responding please check that it's going to my JLAB address mcewen at jlab.org<mailto:mcewen at jlab.org> so I will see any correspondence
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Subject: Fw: C75-RI-011
Hi all,
there seems to have been a chain of unfortunate events that has prevented us to associate the end-groups serial numbers to the proper C75 cavity SN:
* During inspection of the cavities from which the end-groups were going to be cut, it was agreed to serialize the end-groups with "EG-cavity SN" and this is how they were recorded in the travelers C20-CAV-INSP-FPCEG and C20-CAV-INSP-HOMEG
* When the cavities arrived from RI and were inspected by CMM group, those end-group SNs were not available in the drop-down menu for the traveler C75-CAV-INSP so the end-group SNs were left undefined in the cavity inspection traveler
* After the end-groups SNs were added to the drop-down menus, I was informed yesterday that some of the EG SNs were "scratched out" and not visible.
* This morning, I asked Ashley to check the thickness of the FPC flange on cavity C75-RI-011 and she sent me the pictures below which indeed show that the end-group SNs were scratched out and replaced by some other nomenclature
How did the end-groups got the SNs scratched out and re-serialized? How was it decided?
Thanks for your help and for a) suggesting a fix to the issue, b) fix the issue, c) suggest ways to prevent similar issue to occur again.
Best regards,
Gigi
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From: Ashley Anderson Mitchell <ashleya at jlab.org<mailto:ashleya at jlab.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 10:35 AM
To: Gianluigi Ciovati <gciovati at jlab.org<mailto:gciovati at jlab.org>>; Kurt Macha <macha at jlab.org<mailto:macha at jlab.org>>
Subject: Re: C75-RI-011
Gigi,
I took thickness at the 4 corners so as not to scratch the flange sealing surface. Measurements are in inches: 0.3005, 0.3490, 0.3270, 0.3280
As for the SN#s, some are scratched out.
FPC says FLG#3 and MM#2 (and cavity number in two places)
HOM says MM 4
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From: Gianluigi Ciovati <gciovati at jlab.org<mailto:gciovati at jlab.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 9:19 AM
To: Ashley Anderson Mitchell <ashleya at jlab.org<mailto:ashleya at jlab.org>>; Kurt Macha <macha at jlab.org<mailto:macha at jlab.org>>
Subject: Re: C75-RI-011
Hi Ashley,
yes, thank you, I'll update the traveler within the hour. Could you please do a quick caliper check of the thickness of the FPC flange? There seems to be some issues with the end-groups SNs being scratched out?
Thanks,
Gigi
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From: Ashley Anderson Mitchell <ashleya at jlab.org<mailto:ashleya at jlab.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2021 8:58 AM
To: Gianluigi Ciovati <gciovati at jlab.org<mailto:gciovati at jlab.org>>; Kurt Macha <macha at jlab.org<mailto:macha at jlab.org>>
Subject: C75-RI-011
Gigi,
C75-RI-011'a processing traveler ends with us at the USC and I don't see it on the schedule in the future.
I think it should need tuning, CMM and/or lapping next?
Thanks,
- Ashley Mitchell
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