[Pansophy] CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)

Jacob Harris jharris at jlab.org
Wed Feb 2 15:31:15 EST 2022


My recommendation is to split the thought process. For Megan's Org Knowledge Process, Work Center Leads gather and organize their knowledge-based documents in a logical way and list them (with location) on the Org Knowledge Register. For the Pansophy Traveler System, we use links that must point to files located in a protected folder. Traveler authors must identify any appropriate reference documents, ensure they have the correct revision, and provide the files to the Pansophy Team for linking.

It's not the ideal data management technique and it is not the most efficient, but duplicating files is a necessary consequence of having logical Work Center directories and protected traveler links.

Jacob

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Subject: Re: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)

Bingo. Sorry I could not articulate your comments Valerie

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Subject: RE: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)


Jacob,



I'm sorry, but I agree with Phil.

How exactly is this going to work?

I went to the registry as you told me to look at and Phil's name is listed for facilities.

Now you're telling me each WCA keeps their own?

So manuals are being kept in 2 places? Along with OATs/FATs/etc?

But if something goes wrong with equipment they go to Phil's group.

So, now I'm even more confused than before.



And, now you want Megan to fix this, who wasn't a part of the original discovery nor had any input on the procedure?

Please help me understand. I just wanted a place where facility equipment manuals could be placed so that WCDs are linked appropriately and we follow ISO requirements (I know that doesn't say much because you can say anything you want as long as you do what you say...?)



Please help.



Desperately seeking knowledge,



Valerie







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Subject: Re: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



All,



I am glad I wasted my time on this with Kurt Macha.



Do what you want.,

Phil





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Subject: RE: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Maintaining manuals is a good idea. Manuals are part of the Organization Knowledge Process and Meagan owns a procedure that imposes requirements on Work Center Leads. I would like Meagan to take the lead in advising/coordinating locations and formats with Work Canter Leads to ensure her procedure/process is being followed.



Jacob



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Subject: Re: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Valerie,



I copied the oven procedure over to the manual folder.  I didn't delete it from the procedures included files location though in case Phil wanted to store it somewhere on his end too.



Here is the new Manual folder in Prod Chem.
https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-52884

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Subject: RE: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Thank You Ashley!



It may be good that each Work Center Area maintain their manuals.



@Jacob Harris<mailto:jharris at jlab.org>

@Philip Denny<mailto:denny at jlab.org>



Is this okay with you?





Valerie Bookwalter

Jefferson Lab, SRF Department

Pansophy Team

1-757-269-5802 (OFFICE - currently working offsite)







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Subject: Re: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Valerie,



I made a folder in the Production Chem folder for manuals of equipment in the chem room.  The oven procedure can go there and I saw a few other manuals I can move there too.





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Subject: RE: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Phil,



Thank you for your reply but that doesn't answer my questions.



I was referring to the directory you sent me, but what I need to know is what documents should be put there?

Production Chemistry has another area with "manuals", do you own them?



These are the documents in YOUR AREA... (some are OUT OF DATE).

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And these are the documents in the Production Chemistry Group area

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Manuals exist in both places!



Thank you for your attention and help with this.





Valerie Bookwalter

Jefferson Lab, SRF Department

Pansophy Team

1-757-269-5802 (OFFICE - currently working offsite)





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Subject: Re: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Hi Valerie,

I started organizing and updating the files and locations when Kurt Macha was tasked Organizational Knowledge for ISO.



I put the files in:



https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-16429



Phil







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Subject: CHEM ROOM Manual - location? (looking for information)



Phil,



A manual used in Production Chem Room was brought to my attention (Nitrogen Oven Manual in Production Chemistry Room).

It is currently located in a common SRF area of DocuShare. As we move to Master Procedures for SRFOPS the need to know where these types of manuals should be kept is unknown.



Here is a link to the current directory, which is in the process of being shut down.

https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-50603



The new area for Master Procedures is here

https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-52402



However, keeping track of facility/equipment manuals isn't something we do.

So, where should these types of manuals be kept?

A standard place would be best as I am sure we will encounter more of these as we cleanup for ISO.



You have an area called SRF Technical Facilities listed in the Organizational Knowledge Registry here

https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-1201



I looked into the SRF Equipment Documentation and found a directory for Production Chemistry.

https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/View/Collection-16585

There is a mix of documents here but no "manuals" so I am not sure if this is the correct place.



Also, I noticed that there are OSPs and THAs here (some outdated). Are these also kept in a JLAB/Accel place?

Many OSPs/TOSPs/THAs that are linked in travelers/procedures are not valid (link doesn't work) or they are expired.

Where is the "official" place for these types of documents?



Thanks for any information you can provide as we need to move this manual ASAP in order to complete some Procedure/Traveler reference links.





Valerie Bookwalter

Jefferson Lab, SRF Department

Pansophy Team

1-757-269-5802 (OFFICE - currently working offsite)


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