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Bob, ok, done!<br>
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Frank<br>
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Frank, an NCR has been created and you are on the list of
authorized persons to disposition it. I would appreciate you
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Tony
Reilly <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:areilly@jlab.org"><areilly@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gianluigi Ciovati <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gciovati@jlab.org"><gciovati@jlab.org></a>; Robert
Rimmer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rarimmer@jlab.org"><rarimmer@jlab.org></a>; Frank Marhauser
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marhause@jlab.org"><marhause@jlab.org></a>; Chris Dreyfuss
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dreyfuss@jlab.org"><dreyfuss@jlab.org></a>; Ed Daly <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:edaly@jlab.org"><edaly@jlab.org></a>;
Kirk Davis <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdavis@jlab.org"><kdavis@jlab.org></a>; Kurt Macha
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:macha@jlab.org"><macha@jlab.org></a>; E. Anne McEwen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcewen@jlab.org"><mcewen@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charlie Reece <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reece@jlab.org"><reece@jlab.org></a>; Danny
Forehand <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forehand@jlab.org"><forehand@jlab.org></a>; pansophy
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"><pansophy@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DL 202 C75 Pair 4</font>
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An NCR should have been created by the person performing the
test. It was not. One will be created now. I will ask the
Pansophy team to see which SME are on the NCR approval list.</div>
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It's clear there are other issues that we need to manage with
respect to the traveler itself and the process.
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Gianluigi Ciovati
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gciovati@jlab.org"><gciovati@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Rimmer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rarimmer@jlab.org"><rarimmer@jlab.org></a>; Frank
Marhauser <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marhause@jlab.org"><marhause@jlab.org></a>; Chris Dreyfuss
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dreyfuss@jlab.org"><dreyfuss@jlab.org></a>; Ed Daly <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:edaly@jlab.org"><edaly@jlab.org></a>;
Tony Reilly <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:areilly@jlab.org"><areilly@jlab.org></a>; Kirk Davis
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdavis@jlab.org"><kdavis@jlab.org></a>; Kurt Macha
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:macha@jlab.org"><macha@jlab.org></a>; E. Anne McEwen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcewen@jlab.org"><mcewen@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charlie Reece <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reece@jlab.org"><reece@jlab.org></a>; Danny
Forehand <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forehand@jlab.org"><forehand@jlab.org></a>; pansophy
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"><pansophy@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DL 202 C75 Pair 4</font>
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Being the SME, I think Frank should be on the list of
authorized NCR dispositioners as well as the list of
notified people when an NCR is generated.</div>
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Gigi<br>
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Robert Rimmer
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Frank Marhauser <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marhause@jlab.org"><marhause@jlab.org></a>;
Chris Dreyfuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dreyfuss@jlab.org"><dreyfuss@jlab.org></a>; Ed Daly
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:edaly@jlab.org"><edaly@jlab.org></a>; Tony Reilly
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:areilly@jlab.org"><areilly@jlab.org></a>; Kirk Davis
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdavis@jlab.org"><kdavis@jlab.org></a>; Kurt Macha
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:macha@jlab.org"><macha@jlab.org></a>; Gianluigi Ciovati
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gciovati@jlab.org"><gciovati@jlab.org></a>; E. Anne McEwen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcewen@jlab.org"><mcewen@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charlie Reece <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reece@jlab.org"><reece@jlab.org></a>; Danny
Forehand <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forehand@jlab.org"><forehand@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DL 202 C75 Pair 4</font>
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Frank, thank you for the reminder. I think the process
forward should be an NCR should be issued (if not
already) and dispositioned as "use as is". As SME I
think that is your recommendation. I am asking who can
formally disposition the NCR so the pair can move ahead.</div>
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Bob.</div>
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Marhauser
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:marhause@jlab.org"><marhause@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert Rimmer <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rarimmer@jlab.org"><rarimmer@jlab.org></a>;
Chris Dreyfuss <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dreyfuss@jlab.org"><dreyfuss@jlab.org></a>; Ed Daly
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:edaly@jlab.org"><edaly@jlab.org></a>; Tony Reilly
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:areilly@jlab.org"><areilly@jlab.org></a>; Kirk Davis
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdavis@jlab.org"><kdavis@jlab.org></a>; Kurt Macha
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:macha@jlab.org"><macha@jlab.org></a>; Gianluigi Ciovati
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gciovati@jlab.org"><gciovati@jlab.org></a>; E. Anne McEwen
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mcewen@jlab.org"><mcewen@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charlie Reece <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:reece@jlab.org"><reece@jlab.org></a>; Danny
Forehand <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:forehand@jlab.org"><forehand@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: DL 202 C75 Pair 4</font>
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<div>E.g. Recall e-mail 9/22/2020 CC to you and others. No
further comments.<br>
<br>
Scott,<br>
<br>
That is OK, let us see first whether we are still having
DL-135 in place, and correct the traveler entries as
necessary.<br>
This also concern the He pressure/temperature during the
test. We should always test at 2 K.<br>
<br>
Yes, we talked in the recent years about doglegs being
marginally above the threshold in terms of losses.<br>
There were no windows, which failed the spec by a large
margin in the recent past.<br>
Typically I made comments in the traveler system, in
hindsight, if a window failed marginally but was
accepted,<br>
and we always discussed this among us.<br>
There were a lot of windows in the distant past that
should not have been accepted, and when we were not
involved.<br>
<br>
What I like to make sure is that the traveler system
accounts for non-compliance/conformance to a spec with
an official NCR<br>
as is the case with other travelers, and that the
discussion about accepting the window will not occur in
the hallways.<br>
<br>
Danny is right that I verbally accepted the window when
he informed me that the threshold was exceeded only
marginally, but at that time I did not see the actual
data.<br>
Also now I need to have clarified that DL-135 was in
use. I agree with you that I see no reason for anyone
taking DL-135 off the test stand.<br>
<br>
Today, I did not accept the latest test in the traveler
system simply to verify whether an NCR would be created,
which seems to be not the case.<br>
<br>
So as a consequence, the traveler shall be modified to
allow that.<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
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Hi Frank, Chris, <br>
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so this would require a decision to use a
non-conforming part, for which there is a process to
officially disposition the NCR I believe. I am not
familiar with how the "Q spec" for the DL test was
derived, what would be the implication of this in
the module? Slightly higher heat load? Can we trace
back similar accepted components that were used in
pairs? If no noticeable problems occurred it would
seem low risk to use this part, and we should look
at the spec/traveler to see what the limit really
should be? Who (officially) should disposition this
NCR? Who owns the traveler?</div>
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color="#000000"><b>From:</b> frank
<a class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:marhause@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><marhause@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 12:07 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Dreyfuss <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:dreyfuss@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<dreyfuss@jlab.org></a>; Ed Daly <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:edaly@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<edaly@jlab.org></a>; Tony Reilly <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:areilly@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<areilly@jlab.org></a>; Kirk Davis <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:kdavis@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<kdavis@jlab.org></a>; Kurt Macha <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:macha@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<macha@jlab.org></a>; Gianluigi Ciovati <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:gciovati@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<gciovati@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Charlie Reece <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:reece@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<reece@jlab.org></a>; Robert Rimmer <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:rarimmer@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<rarimmer@jlab.org></a>; Danny Forehand <a
class="x_x_x_x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:forehand@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<forehand@jlab.org></a><br>
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<div>Hello Chris,<br>
<br>
This Q0 is below but close to the acceptable limit.
Typically we still accept those values, but I won't<br>
since none of my recommendations communicated over
years have been implemented in this traveler<br>
yet, outspoken loud, louder, and loudest. I
commented on this not too long ago.<br>
CCed people should now.<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
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