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So this is a problem that I don't know how to fix. As far as I can
tell, we have two different travelers referencing other travelers
rather than the procedures that need to be referenced. And those
referenced travelers just reference the same mysterious procedures.
And worse, apparently, at least one of those procedures was never
completed or never uploaded by the guy who no longer works here.<br>
Mike<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/2022 11:18 AM, Matt Weaks wrote:<br>
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Hey Mike,</div>
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I found WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL-R1 here - <a
href="https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-239227/WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL-R1.pdf"
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https://jlabdoc.jlab.org/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-239227/WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL-R1.pdf</a></div>
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But as Tiffany mentioned, it was an older traveler to cover the
sampling of girder components for RADCON, that was incorporated
into WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV. You can see that Step 3 of
WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL matches Step 11 of WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV.</div>
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I believe it may simply have been an error on my part that I
neglected to remove the reference when the table was added.</div>
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For CP-WMGRDR-CLNRM-GIRDER-ASSY, I believe Ari was working on
that before he left, the last note I have in my records is of it
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Please feel free to reach out with any additional questions, I
know some of the work on this project was still in progress when
work stopped.</div>
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-Matt<br>
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face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b>
Tiffany Ganey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ganey@jlab.org"><ganey@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Drury <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:drury@jlab.org"><drury@jlab.org></a>; Matt Weaks
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:weaksmc@jlab.org"><weaksmc@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> pansophy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"><pansophy@jlab.org></a>; Allen Samuels
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:samuels@jlab.org"><samuels@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: WMGRDR Traveler Use</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Mike,</span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Matt Weaks
is the author on the traveler. I’ve added him to this
email so that he can respond to your questions.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tiffany
Ganey</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Drury
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:drury@jlab.org"><drury@jlab.org></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 5, 2022 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tiffany Ganey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ganey@jlab.org"><ganey@jlab.org></a>; Allen
Samuels <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:samuels@jlab.org"><samuels@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> pansophy <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"><pansophy@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: WMGRDR Traveler Use</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">So, after
reading Tiffany's email, I went back and looked at the
<span style="color:black">WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV traveler more
closely. I have a few more questions:</span><span
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</span>Line 10 in the RMV traveler references
WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL-R1. Is that a traveler or a procedure?
And where is this doc? Shouldn't there be a link to the
doc?<br>
Line 22, which instructs to assemble the girder. The
procedure <span style="color:black">
CP-WMGRDR-CLNRM-GIRDER-ASSY is referenced. Can't find
that procedure. The only thing I find is another
traveler, WMGRDR-CLNRM-GIRDER-ASSY which also references
the procedure that I can't find.<br>
Mike<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 1/4/2022 9:09 AM, Tiffany Ganey
wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The
WMGRDR-CLNRM-ASSY procedure and traveler were rolled
into WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV. Matt Weaks authored the
WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV traveler and this traveler is in
Pansophy. In June, it was agreed that the
WMGRDR-CLNRM-ASSY procedure and traveler could be
deleted / archived since Matt included what was needed
into the WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV traveler.
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tiffany
Ganey</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Allen Samuels <a
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moz-do-not-send="true">
<samuels@jlab.org></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tiffany Ganey <a
href="mailto:ganey@jlab.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><ganey@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> pansophy <a
href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><pansophy@jlab.org></a>;
Michael Drury
<a href="mailto:drury@jlab.org" moz-do-not-send="true"><drury@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: WMGRDR Traveler Use</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Tiffany,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">We have
been going over the WMGRDR documents in preparation for
it potentially starting up soon. A question was raised
about the Girder Clean Assy and LC draft and its status.
Since it lists you as the author, do you remember what
was going on with that one before the WMGRDR work
stopped?</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Allen</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Drury <<a
href="mailto:drury@jlab.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">drury@jlab.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 3, 2022 11:57 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Allen Samuels <<a
href="mailto:samuels@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">samuels@jlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> pansophy <<a
href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pansophy@jlab.org</a>>;
Anthony DiPette <<a href="mailto:dipette@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">dipette@jlab.org</a>>;
Frank Humphry <<a href="mailto:fhumphry@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fhumphry@jlab.org</a>>;
Gregory Marble <<a href="mailto:marble@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">marble@jlab.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: WMGRDR Traveler Use</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Allen,<br>
I apologize for not getting to this sooner.<br>
I have some questions:<br>
There is what appears to be an approved traveler,
WMGRDR-DISA-SAMPL-R1 that does not show up in the traveler
drop down list and is also not on your master list.
However, there is a travel entry on your list for
WMGRDR-DISA-WGRDR. Are these meant to be the same
traveler? What do we need to do to get into the traveler
drop down?<br>
There is a file in the Draft Procedures folder labeled as
" Girder Clean Assy and LC.docx" that I think corresponds
to WMGRDR-ASSY-WGRDR. What needs to happen to get that
file from Draft to Approvals?<br>
<br>
For now, I think that the following travelers should be
kept in use or put into place to be used:<br>
WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV<br>
WMGRDR-CHEM-COMP-DEGR<br>
WMGRDR-DISA-WGRDR (see questions above)<br>
WMGRDR-ASSY-WGRDR (see questions above)<br>
Any other travelers can be dropped for now, I think.<br>
<br>
It would be good to get a procedure written that covers
Viewer Assy but I don't know who would write that. There
seem to be a lot of questions about what to do with the
viewers.<br>
<br>
Let me know if you have any questions.<br>
Mike</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 11/17/2021 8:22 AM, Allen
Samuels wrote:</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Mike,</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Here’s
the masterlist. Thank you for your help with this.</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Allen</span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Mike Drury <a
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moz-do-not-send="true"><drury@jlab.org></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 17, 2021 7:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Allen Samuels <a
href="mailto:samuels@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><samuels@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> pansophy <a
href="mailto:pansophy@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><pansophy@jlab.org></a>;
Anthony DiPette
<a href="mailto:dipette@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><dipette@jlab.org></a>;
Frank Humphry <a href="mailto:fhumphry@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">
<fhumphry@jlab.org></a>; Gregory Marble <a
href="mailto:marble@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><marble@jlab.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: WMGRDR Traveler Use</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Hi
Allen,<br>
We will still be refurbishing girders whenever possible,
so these travelers should remain available. Could you
send a copy of this masterlist. The problem here for me
is that Ari Palczewski was supposed to get these
travelers written and into the system. I don't have
much familiarity with what travelers are needed to push
girders through the cleanroom, etc. So, I have some
things to figure out.<br>
Thanks,<br>
Mike</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">On 11/16/2021 3:36 PM, Allen
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Mike,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">With the WMGRDR project looking
like it was starting back up again, pansophy did a
review on the project documents. This was to see what
was still needed, and to see what documents were
actually used. Although quite a few forms and
procedures were and put into production, only two
travelers made it into pansophy. Of those two, only
WMGRDR-GRDR-RMV had any travelers opened. We at
pansophy were wondering if the other traveler,
WMGRDR-CHEM-COMP-DEGR, was still needed? Furthermore,
a project masterlist was created with quite a few
unfinished travelers mentioned. We were wondering
which of those were also needed, and if there were any
we could add to the list? I’ve attached the masterlist
for your convenience.</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thank you for your time,</p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Allen Samuels</p>
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