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<div>as we discussed today, I would appreciate updated slides (either for the backup or for the main presentation) on your favorite channels, in particular demonstrating how MORE STATISTICS (e.g., a factor of 2 in FoM for D + FT, compared to the FULL statistics
already in hand) would make a more statistically compelling statement (or allow more binning or…) for an ultimate publication. I posted the entire presentation as it is right now at</div>
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<div>- feel free to extract single slides and send me those back (in a new Powerpoint file), or just send me figures and text and tell me where to put those on the presentation (please explain your proposed changes in your email).</div>
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<div>I also am still asking for general comments, suggestions and imrpovements, as well as your proposed response to our reader’s report:</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Comments on J12-24-RunGroupC</b><br>
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<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;">June 27, 2024 at 6:44:20 AM EDT<br>
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<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;">"Kuhn, Sebastian E." <<a href="mailto:skuhn@odu.edu">skuhn@odu.edu</a>><br>
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<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;"><b>Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif;">"Dr. Markus Diehl" <<a href="mailto:markus.diehl@desy.de">markus.diehl@desy.de</a>>,
"Ilieva, Yordanka" <<a href="mailto:ILIEVA@sc.edu">ILIEVA@sc.edu</a>><br>
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Dear Sebastian,<br>
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I am a member of the PAC52 assigned to do a first reading<br>
of Run Group C Jeopardy update,<br>
(for which you are the contact person),<br>
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Since this run group comprises some well-established<br>
and thoroughly reviewed experiments I don't have many<br>
scientific questions.<br>
<br>
Still, PAC has to address some points during Jeopardy review,<br>
and it would be helpful if you had some comments on the following:<br>
<br>
1. Jeopardy instructions say that "If the experiment has already received a<br>
portion of its allocated beam time, the spokespersons should present the status<br>
of the analysis of the existing data and the projected results for the final<br>
complete data set. The goal is to show the physics impact of the beam time<br>
requested in the jeopardy update."<br>
<br>
I notice that update document focuses on the preliminary results from the<br>
already recorded data (actually small part of it), and I don't see any<br>
projections for the complete data set. This would be singularly<br>
helpful to have, but I certainly understand that this<br>
means a lot of work and likely cannot be produced for the PAC meeting. In that<br>
case, PAC will work with what we have.<br>
<br>
2. Is there any change in the status of the collaboration in terms of<br>
institutes, committed staff, and prospective students that could<br>
impact the feasibility of performing and analyzing proposed measurements?<br>
<br>
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3. Finally, I do have one "scientific" question. TAC report says that<br>
your APOLLO target "has been operating with great success". On the<br>
other hand, you mention problems with pre-irradiation of this target<br>
and consequently the sub-optimal polarization in the first part of<br>
your run, so the remaining 1/3 of the originally requested 120 PAC<br>
days, if approved, would result in more than 1/3 of the additional<br>
statistics. Could this improvement (or previous degradation) be somehow<br>
roughly quantified in terms of some effective PAC days or related quantifier?<br>
<br>
Also, when you write in the third-to-last sentence of the report<br>
"... mostly due to (deuterated) ammonia samples ..." do you mean that<br>
measurements with ND3 were more affected by the pre-irradiation problem<br>
than those with NH3, or is the problem ND3-NH3 symmetric? Because if it<br>
is not symmetric wouldn't it make sense to favor ND3 for the remaining data taking?<br>
(Related to this, I am confused by your Beam Requirements List which looks like you<br>
are asking for 40 days (960 hours) for each of the 5 targets.)<br>
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<br>
Thank you for any comments you can provide.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Kresimir</div>
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<div>I am planning to respond to the reader either tonight or tomorrow early since I want to get this out before the holidays.</div>
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<div>- Sebastian</div>
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<div>On Jul 1, 2024, at 1:12 PM, Silvia Niccolai via Rgc <rgc@jlab.org> wrote:</div>
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<div>Dear all,<br>
tomorrow we'll have our RGC-analysis meeting, at 8:30AM Jlab time, zoom<br>
link: https://jlab-org.zoomgov.com/j/1601890334<br>
The main subject of discussion will be of course the preparation of the<br>
Jeopardy PAC of next week. Everyone who has yet to give contributions to<br>
Sebastian, please try and get something ready for tomorrow.<br>
I'd also like to converge on the raster calibration: we are finished with<br>
the calibrations of Fall22, and the rest of the preparatory work (in<br>
particular the AI training) is almost complete as well. I'd like to ask<br>
for the pass1 review to be done by the end of July. But we need to decide<br>
what to do about the raster calibration, so please let's try to devote<br>
some time to that tomorrow.<br>
Thanks to all and best regards,<br>
Silvia<br>
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