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<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>Please find attached the inbending and outbending comparison for
the electron and proton xyz vertex and their differences. The only
significant difference I can see between ccdb and sqlite, is a
shift in the outbending Vy sqlite distribution away from 0, both
for electron and proton.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Samy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/02/2025 16:08, Sebastian Kuhn
wrote:<br>
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<div>I am still trying to understand why some of the plots shown
during the (very successful!) calibration review show a worse
resolution for the “sqlite” version of the cooking vs. the
“CCDB” version. It would be helpful if someone could check
whether Derek’s scripts are working as intended - resulting in
sqlite having the exact same calibration constants as CCDB for
EVERYTHING other than the raster and beam offset constants?
(Yes, the beam offset constants should be set to zero, so that
is correct). I am also hoping to get a response from Noemie
regarding the exact cuts used in the elastic analysis.</div>
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<div>Samy’s response (also quoted below) does not indicate any
cuts on vertex variables, so the slight difference in vertex
reconstruction doesn’t seem to have played any role. For the
inbending comparison, the difference between sqlite and CCDB
seems small, but I am still puzzled about the Delta-phi
resolution, which seems worse for sqlite. (However, this may
be partially a “Trompe-l'œil” because the peak is a little
lower - if one were to re-normalize both distributions to the
same max peak height, the difference would probably be truly
minimal). In any case, for outbending the difference is more
significant - sqlite is clearly worse for Delta-phi, while the
vertex distributions still look better for both electrons and
protons, at least for Vy (Vx not shown). Samy, would it be
possible to plot Delta-vx and Delta-vy (difference between p
and e), again comparing CCDB and sqlite for both inbending and
outbending? Noëmie, would you be able to do the same for
elastic events?</div>
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<div>If you have time this afternoon and would like to discuss
this in a meeting, I could set something up for 1:00 p.m.
(until at most 3 p.m.) today. Please let me know your
preferences! Otherwise, I would suggest we make a final
decision on Tuesday based on all information we can collect
until then (please send as soon as you have it). </div>
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<div>Thanks - Sebastian</div>
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<div>Hi Sebastian,<br>
<br>
Please find attached a document detailing the event
selection, fiducial and exclusivity cuts I use. I've
selected the relevant pages from the release note I'm
writing, but the QADB selection cuts of course do not apply
to the spring23 test runs.<br>
<br>
The plots with the separate inbending/outbending and the
vertex plots are in the slides attached. The details on the
paths ect.. used are in the email I sent on Tuesday.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Samy<br>
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On 20/02/2025 17:06, Sebastian Kuhn wrote:<br>
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thanks for your response. I was also asking explicitly
WHAT cuts you are using</blockquote>
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<div>On Feb 20, 2025, at 10:26, Holmberg, Derek
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To generate the latest version of the sqlite, I used
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This script grabs the latest snapshot from ccdb, so
the one I grabbed for the latest raster stuff was
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Just to make sure that I didn't make any other errors,
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In this script, I set the beam-offset to zero for all
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Could there be an issue with setting the beam offsets
to zero? I thought that setting the offset to zero
would be necessary since the detached vertex tracking
method is agnostic to any offset.</div>
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Please let me know if there's anything else I can help
with!</div>
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Sincerely,</div>
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<span
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 20, 2025 10:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Sebastian Kuhn <<a
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<b>Cc:</b> Holmberg, Derek <<a
href="mailto:deholmberg@wm.edu"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">deholmberg@wm.edu</a>>;
pilleux <<a href="mailto:pilleux@jlab.org"
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class="moz-txt-link-freetext">pilleux@jlab.org</a>>;
Samy Polcher Rafael <<a
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rgc_analysis] [EXTERNAL] Re:
[Rgc] RGC-analysis meeting tomorrow</span>
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Hello all,<br>
Derek, did you have a chance to double-check your CCDB
copying<br>
procedures, to address Sebastian's question?<br>
For the rest, I can say that CJ was for sure the same
for the two<br>
cookings. Noemie and Samy can reply to the other
questions.<br>
Best regards,<br>
Silvia<br>
<br>
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On 2025-02-19 10:01, Sebastian Kuhn wrote:<br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> coming back to the contradictory results for the
comparison between<br>
> sqlite and CCDB (improved vertex resolution,
worse phi resolution for<br>
> elastic and pDVCS), I was wondering whether we
are 100% sure that<br>
> everything else was exactly the same for both
versions other than the<br>
> raster calibration constants. I remember last
time we had this issue,<br>
> we found that there was something else that had
changed between CCDB<br>
> and sqlite (or something that hadn’t been
completely copied over to<br>
> sqlite from CCDB) which confounded the effect of
ONLY the raster<br>
> constants.<br>
><br>
> In addition, it would be helpful to get as much
detail as possible for<br>
> all conditions for both the elastic and the pDVCS
analysis using both<br>
> versions:<br>
> - COATJAVA version (same?)<br>
> - any and all cuts? (vertex, coincidence,
fiducial,…)<br>
> - any background subtractions?<br>
><br>
> I am particularly puzzled why Delta-phi for
elastics seems better for<br>
> CCDB than for sqlite - to first order, there
should be NO effect at<br>
> all from the vertex, and if anything a tighter
vertex distribution<br>
> should give an improvement.<br>
><br>
> I think we should convince ourselves that this
improvement is a real<br>
> effect before we decide to use CCDB instead of
sqlite for the Winter<br>
> cook.<br>
><br>
> - Sebastian<br>
><br>
>> On Feb 18, 2025, at 14:50, Holmberg, Derek
via Rgc_analysis<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:rgc_analysis@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgc_analysis@jlab.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi All,<br>
>><br>
>> I finished some updated slides for the raster
calibration review. I<br>
>> uploaded the PowerPoint presentation (as a
.pptx file) to the wiki<br>
>> for today's meeting:<br>
>><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="https://clasweb.jlab.org/wiki/index.php/RGC_Feb18"
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>><br>
>> Since the recooked runs were carbon and NH3,
I made plots for one<br>
>> carbon (17485) and one NH3 (17577) run. I
used the sidisdvcs trains<br>
>> for my plots, with each coming from the
following directories:<br>
>><br>
>> Sqlite:<br>
>><br>
>
/volatile/clas12/rg-c/production/dst/11.1.0_02_04_25_dst_sqlite/dst/train/sidisdvcs/<br>
>><br>
>> CCDB:<br>
>><br>
>
/volatile/clas12/rg-c/production/dst/11.1.0_01_24_25_dst2/dst/train/sidisdvcs/<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I included plots of the vx, vy, and vz
distributions for FD<br>
>> electrons and CD pi+ as well as plots of the
polar and azimuthal<br>
>> angular distributions of each particle. I
also included some plots<br>
>> of the angle between the pi+ and electron
tracks and the delta_Vz<br>
>> distribution for both sqlite and ccdb.<br>
>><br>
>> Please let me know if there are any issues
with the formatting or<br>
>> other things that need to be plotted; if
you're copying things from<br>
>> my slides, make sure to copy and paste the
entire slide since I put<br>
>> some extra objects in the slides for the
"preliminary" watermarks as<br>
>> well as to cover up some mislabeled axes
(whoops!).<br>
>><br>
>> Sincerely,<br>
>> Derek Holmberg<br>
>><br>
>> -------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> From: Rgc <<a
href="mailto:rgc-bounces@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgc-bounces@jlab.org</a>>
on behalf of Samy Polcher Rafael<br>
>> via Rgc <<a href="mailto:rgc@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgc@jlab.org</a>><br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2025 1:39 PM<br>
>> To: silvia <<a
href="mailto:silvia@jlab.org" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">silvia@jlab.org</a>>;
Rgc <<a href="mailto:rgc@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgc@jlab.org</a>>;
Rgc Analysis<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:rgc_analysis@jlab.org"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgc_analysis@jlab.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [Rgc] [Rgc_analysis]
RGC-analysis meeting tomorrow<br>
>><br>
>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> I have updated the slides from last week's
meeting to add the<br>
>> electron<br>
>> and proton Vx, Vy, Vz distributions for the
ccdb and sqlite<br>
>> versions.<br>
>> The .odp version can be found here<br>
>><br>
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>> [1] and a<br>
>> pdf version is attached.<br>
>><br>
>> I have re-run on the files in the following
directories to double<br>
>> check:<br>
>><br>
>> - ccdb:<br>
>>
/volatile/clas12/rg-c/production/dst/11.1.0_01_24_25_dst2/dst/train/<br>
>><br>
>> - sqlite:<br>
>><br>
>
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>><br>
>> On the vertex distributions the only
significant difference I<br>
>> noticed is<br>
>> a small shift on the electron and proton Vy
of the sqlite compared<br>
>> to ccdb.<br>
>><br>
>> I then tried to separate inbending and
outbending runs and it shows<br>
>> that<br>
>> most of the difference between the two
versions is coming from<br>
>> outbending runs. The exclusivity and vertex
variables in inbending<br>
>> are i<br>
>> think compatible given the statistics
available.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Samy<br>
>><br>
>> On 17/02/2025 22:32, silvia via Rgc_analysis
wrote:<br>
>>> Dear all,<br>
>>> we'll have our RGC-analysis meeting
tomorrow, Tuesday, at 8:30AM<br>
>> JLab<br>
>>> time, zoom link:<br>
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>>> Best regards,<br>
>>> Silvia<br>
>>>
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