[Sbs_gems] [EXTERNAL] Question on pedestal plots

Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) kg6cq at virginia.edu
Sun Jan 23 12:17:58 EST 2022


Hi Sean,
Yes I just found it and I am using it to make some basic plots
Thanks
Kondo

From: Sean Jeffas <sj9ry at virginia.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <kg6cq at virginia.edu>
Cc: Andrew Puckett <puckett at jlab.org>; Sbs_gems at jlab.org
Subject: Re: [Sbs_gems] [EXTERNAL] Question on pedestal plots

Hi Kondo,

I'm not sure if you found this, but I made a log post with the GEM study, which will be most useful to you.

https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3975518

Best,
Sean

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:34 AM Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <kg6cq at virginia.edu<mailto:kg6cq at virginia.edu>> wrote:
Hi again Andrew,

I just quickly looked at the GEM studies with beam current from yesterday and it seems that the sag is indeed correlated to the beam current. I will try to get some preliminary plots on that shortly

Best regards
Kondo

From: Andrew Puckett <puckett at jlab.org<mailto:puckett at jlab.org>>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2022 7:28 PM
To: Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <kg6cq at virginia.edu<mailto:kg6cq at virginia.edu>>
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Question on pedestal plots

Hi Kondo, We’ve seen this phenomenon since the beginning of the experiment, it was worse for high Q2 kinematics. The negative sag of the common mode for either method  is attributable to the wrong polarity fluctuations. The difference between Danning and sorting method calculations is something we’ve also seen from the beginning. The Danning method as implemented offline is subject to more downside bias as a result of this compared to the sorting method. I suppose if we see a larger difference in some modules it could affect the efficiency, but is hopefully correctable in software.

Andrew
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On Jan 22, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <kg6cq at virginia.edu<mailto:kg6cq at virginia.edu>> wrote:

Hi Andrew,
I was looking at some pedestal plots and I noticed two things,

1-) The difference between sorting and Danning method has this curve-like shape for the U-V strip layer that is not seen for the X-Y layers and the difference is quite significant compare to the common mode fluctuation itself. I looked at some earlier plots (run 13394) when we had all 4 U-V layers as well as the most recent one and it seems quite consistent.

https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3975625/summaryPlots_13455_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf

https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3974078/summaryPlots_13394_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf

2-) I also see for the V stripe of layer#1, the difference is more pronounced and I am thinking this might partly explain the lower efficiency we are seeing with this layer

I was wondering if there is any explanation for the discrepancy. Maybe there is something here that we can learn something from

Best regards
Kondo
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