<div dir="ltr">Hi Kondo,<div><br><div><div>I'm not sure if you found this, but I made a log post with the GEM study, which will be most useful to you.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3975518">https://logbooks.jlab.org/entry/3975518</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Sean</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 11:34 AM Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <<a href="mailto:kg6cq@virginia.edu">kg6cq@virginia.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi again Andrew, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I just quickly looked at the GEM studies with beam current from yesterday and it seems that the sag is indeed correlated to the beam current. I will try to get some preliminary plots on that shortly
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best regards <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kondo<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt"> Andrew Puckett <<a href="mailto:puckett@jlab.org" target="_blank">puckett@jlab.org</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 22, 2022 7:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <<a href="mailto:kg6cq@virginia.edu" target="_blank">kg6cq@virginia.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:Sbs_gems@jlab.org" target="_blank">Sbs_gems@jlab.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL] Question on pedestal plots<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Kondo, We’ve seen this phenomenon since the beginning of the experiment, it was worse for high Q2 kinematics. The negative sag of the common mode for either method is attributable to the wrong polarity fluctuations. The difference between
Danning and sorting method calculations is something we’ve also seen from the beginning. The Danning method as implemented offline is subject to more downside bias as a result of this compared to the sorting method. I suppose if we see a larger difference
in some modules it could affect the efficiency, but is hopefully correctable in software.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">On Jan 22, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Gnanvo, Kondo (kg6cq) <<a href="mailto:kg6cq@virginia.edu" target="_blank">kg6cq@virginia.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi Andrew, </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I was looking at some pedestal plots and I noticed two things,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">1-) The difference between sorting and Danning method has this curve-like shape for the U-V strip layer that is not seen for the X-Y layers and the difference is quite significant compare to the common mode
fluctuation itself. I looked at some earlier plots (run 13394) when we had all 4 U-V layers as well as the most recent one and it seems quite consistent.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3975625/summaryPlots_13455_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf" target="_blank">https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3975625/summaryPlots_13455_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><a href="https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3974078/summaryPlots_13394_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf" target="_blank">https://logbooks.jlab.org/files/2022/01/3974078/summaryPlots_13394_BBGEM_ped_and_commonmode_50k_printme.pdf</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">2-) I also see for the V stripe of layer#1, the difference is more pronounced and I am thinking this might partly explain the lower efficiency we are seeing with this layer</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I was wondering if there is any explanation for the discrepancy. Maybe there is something here that we can learn something from</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Best regards </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Kondo</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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