[Solid_baffle] baffle material
Zhiwen Zhao
zwzhao at jlab.org
Mon Jul 11 16:18:22 EDT 2016
So the baffle in pCDR gives slightly better trigger and worse background
for Copper than lead
After Rich finishes tuning the new baffle, we can test background and
trigger again to see if these conclusions hold
Who is working on evaluating it with engineering input?
Do we need to decide on the default material before reply to the review
by Aug?
Zhiwen
On 7/11/2016 3:33 PM, Paul A Souder wrote:
> I would think that final background rates and engineering input would be
> needed before the final decision is make. Both Cu and Pb have advantages.
>
> Paul
>
> From: Solid_baffle <solid_baffle-bounces at jlab.org
> <mailto:solid_baffle-bounces at jlab.org>> on behalf of "Richard S. Holmes"
> <rsholmes at syr.edu <mailto:rsholmes at syr.edu>>
> Date: Monday, July 11, 2016 at 3:22 PM
> To: Zhiwen Zhao <zwzhao at jlab.org <mailto:zwzhao at jlab.org>>,
> "solid_baffle at jlab.org <mailto:solid_baffle at jlab.org>"
> <solid_baffle at jlab.org <mailto:solid_baffle at jlab.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Solid_baffle] baffle material
>
> There are some slides in this
> talk https://hallaweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/9/95/Baffles_5-15_rsholmes.pdf (two
> slides from Zhiwen and three of mine), which also are summarized in my
> baffle writeup
> at https://hallaweb.jlab.org/wiki/images/9/91/Baffles_writeup_2-2016.pdf. With
> Cu the photon rate is about 15% higher than for Pb overall. The energy
> dependence of this probably should be checked. With Pb lined Cu the
> photon rate is about 8% higher, and if the last baffle is solid Pb
> it performs about the same as Pb. Pb lined Cu has some of the advantages
> of solid Cu, though it would be the same as far as machining the slits
> is concerned.
>
> There were questions about the activation of Cu which I'm not sure we
> ever got a good answer to.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM Zhiwen Zhao <zwzhao at jlab.org
> <mailto:zwzhao at jlab.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> The question about baffle material was raised by the review committee
> and need to be addressed
>
> I had the study last year showing Copper seems not a bad choice among
> other materials.
> http://hallaweb.jlab.org/12GeV/SoLID/download/baffle/talk/solid_baffle_zwzhao_20150316.pdf
> I think Rich also had some study favoring Copper, but I can't find the
> record any more.
>
> If we decide on Copper, we can
> 1. use that to do background and trigger study from now on.
> 2. Rich could further tune baffle because Copper can be machined with
> good precision.
> (for example, maybe the inner surface of baffle slit can have some
> angle to follow electrons within the 9cm length)
>
> Practically, it would be some kind Copper alloy.
> Roger from hallC has good suggestion and experience from Qweak
> Collimator
> Seamus, maybe you can even get some cost estimation to update the very
> rough number in pCDR.
>
> Thanks
>
> Zhiwen
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