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    Larry,<br>
    If I understand correctly you want to add shielding on to the
    platform that supports the pairspectrometer magnet..<br>
    Is this correct?<br>
    <br>
    Dave<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 1/26/2011 5:26 PM, Larry Weinstein wrote:
    <blockquote cite="mid:4D409FA0.9090302@odu.edu" type="cite"> Dear
      Dave,<br>
      <br>
      The wall is 10' wide.&nbsp; That is the approximate distance from the
      short
      ladder at the pair spectrometer to the upstream end of that
      platform.&nbsp;
      The wall height would then be beam height plus one foot.&nbsp; (I did
      not
      measure the height so I am not sure whether it would be 4' or 5'.)<br>
      <br>
      I completely agree that we should not rush into this.&nbsp; I think
      that the
      radiation experience since Thursday indicates that we do not need
      to do
      this immediately.<br>
      <br>
      - Larry<br>
      <br>
      David Kashy wrote:
      <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4D409DCB.8020902@jlab.org"> Hi
        Larry,<br>
        Is this wall 10' high or wide?<br>
        If it is 10 ft wide then I guess we need to start it above the
        floor
        level and need to design a beam structure to support it.<br>
        <br>
        If it is 10 ft tall we will still need to design a structure to
        keep it
        from toppling. <br>
        <br>
        This wall will weight about 8000 lbs (similar to HYCAL) not a
        trivial
        load and thus we must do it correctly.<br>
        <br>
        Thanks<br>
        Dave<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        On 1/26/2011 4:55 PM, Larry Weinstein wrote:
        <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:4D409843.3060700@odu.edu">
          Dear
          Folks,<br>
          <br>
          Recommendation: In order to be very conservative, build a
          concrete wall
          on the beam left side of the collimator box, frascati magnet
          1, and PS
          magnet.&nbsp; The wall would be about 10' x 5' x 1' and require 200
          blocks.&nbsp;
          It should be built during the next extended down time
          (Tuesday?) so as
          not to interfere with taking data.<br>
          <br>
          Details:&nbsp; I spoke to Pavel Degtiarenko, the radiation and
          shielding
          expert.&nbsp; He says that there is very little useful data about
          the effect
          of radiation on electronics because the response of
          electronics to
          radiation is highly variable.&nbsp; He also noted that the existing
          BPM
          amplifiers have probably already suffered some radiation
          damage and
          that this damage is cumulative.&nbsp; He also said that most of the
          radiation is probably high energy particles that can be
          shielded by a
          shield wall (if we know the approximate source location.)<br>
          <br>
          This means that we probably want to add shielding to reduce
          the
          probability of catastrophic BPM failure.<br>
          <br>
          RadCon gave us the badge readings today (thanks, Becky!).&nbsp; <br>
          <br>
          <table width="450" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
            <col width="75" span="6"> <tbody>
              <tr height="13">
                <td width="75" align="right" height="13">66016</td>
                <td width="75" align="right">331</td>
                <td colspan="3" width="225">1' from top of Acc IOC rack</td>
                <td width="75"><br>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66017</td>
                <td align="right">197</td>
                <td colspan="4">2.5' from top of Acc IOC rack, in front
                  of
                  concrete wall</td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66018</td>
                <td align="right">220</td>
                <td colspan="4">2.5' from bottom of Acc IOC rack, in
                  front of
                  concrete wall</td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66019</td>
                <td align="right">66</td>
                <td colspan="4">2.5 from top of Acc IOC rack, behind
                  concrete
                  wall</td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66020</td>
                <td align="right">73</td>
                <td colspan="4">2' from bottom of Acc IOC rack, behind
                  concrete wall</td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66023</td>
                <td align="right">92</td>
                <td>on ioc ptarg</td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66024</td>
                <td align="right">254</td>
                <td colspan="3">in front of new lead wall, 5' from floor</td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66025</td>
                <td align="right">191</td>
                <td colspan="3">L1-15 on left (upstream) side of IOC</td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66026</td>
                <td align="right">632</td>
                <td colspan="2">on railing opposite PS</td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
                <td><br>
                </td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66027</td>
                <td align="right">230</td>
                <td colspan="4">upstream, beam side of lead wall on
                  ioctorus</td>
              </tr>
              <tr height="13">
                <td align="right" height="13">66028</td>
                <td align="right">126</td>
                <td colspan="4">downstream, outside of lead wall on ioc
                  torus<br>
                </td>
              </tr>
            </tbody>
          </table>
          The first column is the badge number, the second is the
          radiation dose,
          and the third is the location.<br>
          <br>
          A few notes: Badge 66026 with a reading of 632 mr is located
          where the
          radcon photon probe was located before 1/20, on the railing of
          the
          space frame close to the pair spectrometer.&nbsp; The probe was
          reading
          about 50 mr/hr at that location.<br>
          <br>
          Badge 66019, behind the concrete wall, is located directly on
          top of
          the accelerator BPM amplifiers and right next to the radcon
          photon
          probe which is currently reading 5 mr/hr.&nbsp; This is consistent
          with
          badge 66026.<br>
          <br>
          badges 66016, 7, and 8 are located on the accelerator BPM
          amplifier
          rack.&nbsp; The highest one (66016) has the highest dose and has
          much less
          of the lead shielding on the lead wall between it and the beam
          line.&nbsp;
          The concrete wall (either 6" or 12") reduces the rate from
          about 200 mr
          to 70 mr (comparing badges 17 and 18 with 19 and 20).&nbsp; (Note
          that the
          badges were placed before the BPE shielding was added.)<br>
          <br>
          The maximum thickness of the lead wall reduces the dose from
          254 (badge
          66024) to 92 (badge 66023).<br>
          <br>
          The radiation level is not much less a little further
          down-beam on rack
          L1-15 (191 mr at badge 25).<br>
          <br>
          The dose decreases about a factor of two between the upstream
          beam side
          of the lead wall on ioctorus to the downstream outside of the
          lead wall.<br>
          <br>
          Summary: The dose at iocptarg, ioctorus and the accelerator
          BPM
          amplifiers are within a factor of two.&nbsp; The shielding reduces
          the dose
          significantly.<br>
          <br>
          There is floor space or floor weight capacity to place any
          more
          shielding near the racks.&nbsp; THis means that the only place to
          add
          shielding is near the source.&nbsp; Since the source probably
          includes the
          collimator box, convertor and chicane, we should build a
          concrete wall
          on the beam left side from the PS magnet going as far upstream
          as
          possible.<br>
          <br>
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                                Larry 

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