[Ace] Fwd: o365 testing

[Erik Werlau]

Agreed. But if it can be done. I will find a way for myself and be happy to share to others. As a non-exempt it behooves me to ensure one cannot be reached when one is not paid to be. And a phone un-stipend’ and controlled do not go together.

Their rationale for moving to O365 is less about security and more about a reduction of their responsibility in what they support.

What CNI found with zimbra was that it was an open source product they had to find ways to support user complaints. I imagine the goal here is that they can pass on tickets to MSFT.

Throughout this transition I will be here to make sure it is as convenient as possible within the confines of my power to make it so.

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> On Aug 15, 2018, at 9:13 PM, Brian Bevins <bevins at jlab.org> wrote:
> 
> I don't use exchange and I don't plan to. If they want me to have a phone they can wipe, then they can pay for it. Otherwise, I guess I won't read mail offsite anymore.
> 
> I think it's optimistic to say "Mail can always be done with IMAP". Some places seem to be moving to o365 specifically to move from open protocols like IMAP to MAPI for "security".
> 
> As for calDAV, there's never been any official support that I know about. I worked it out through trial and error and Zimbra Google Fu. I'm curious about how to simulate it. Again, if the price of syncing the calendar to my phone is that they own my phone, no thank you.
> 
>> On 08/15/18 19:07, Erik Werlau wrote:
>> If you use exchange now on your phone they can remote wipe it already with zimbra. I’m opposed to the switch as I hate outlook. Mail can always be done with IMAP in this case. And calDAV support can be.... simulated. If you want to avoid the remote wipe feature.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 7:01 PM, Brian Bevins <bevins at jlab.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> O365 optionally offers IMAP and SMTP. Hopefully they will turn it on. I doubt they'll turn on calDAV support, so you'll probably have to use the MS calendar client on your android phone. Enabling this essentially lets the CC own your phone.
>>> 
>>>> On 08/15/18 10:55, Theo Larrieu wrote:
>>>> You should be able to use pine.  From what I read online, O365 offers IMAP access to email, so any IMAP client should work including pine and Thunderbird.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:53 AM, Theo McGuckin <tsm at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or Elm, I mean, I'm not a Luddite...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 08/15/2018 10:52 AM, Theo McGuckin wrote:
>>>>>> Can I use it with Pine?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 08/11/2018 09:56 AM, Brian Bevins wrote:
>>>>>>> Sad to see they're forcing us deeper into Microsoft vendor lock-in and
>>>>>>> abandoning open standard protocols and clients of our choice. I wonder how much
>>>>>>> we'll be paying for a less useful service than we've previously had.
>>>>>>> 
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