[b1_ana] LiD
Patricia SOLVIGNON
solvigno at jlab.org
Thu May 2 16:25:47 EDT 2013
Which dilution factor should we use for LiD: 2/8 or 4/8 ?
Patricia
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Patricia SOLVIGNON
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On May 2, 2013, at 2:37 PM, O. A. Rondon <or at virginia.edu> wrote:
> Hi Karl,
>
> - This is what I think about the target physics of LiD.
>
> The main issues with LiD are that the polarization takes a long time to
> ramp up, longer than ND3 and therefore it takes "forever" to thermalize.
> Not a problem if the ratio method is used.
>
> Also, the maximum Pz ~ 30-35%, is lower, but no anneals are needed.
> Basically the maximum Pz is the average Pz.
>
> LiD could be a good material for a 6.5 T solenoid target. At Pz = 71%
> has been achieved at 0.25 K. Given its superb radiation resistance, I
> would expect it to beat ND3 at 1 K and 100 nA.
>
> The SLAC LiD experience is reported here. The conclusions section says
> it all.
> http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/S0168-9002(98)01341-2
>
> - This is what I said about the nuclear properties
>
> O. A. Rondon wrote:
>>
>> Things are a bit trickier for LiD, since the alpha cluster in Li would
>> contribute to the denominator, but not to the numerator, and the
>> effective polarization of the D cluster in Li is not the 6Li
>> polarization. So an analysis like that of my E155 tech note (posted at
>> the URL shown below,) suitably modified to take into account that the
>> beam polarization is not involved, is needed
>>
> http://twist.phys.virginia.edu/%7Eor/lidnucl.pdf
>>
>> Also, we need to keep in mind that LiD has > 4% 7Li and 2% H, both of
>> which polarize very high (>~70%) and with the very large proton
>> asymmetry could complicate things significantly, so using LiD would need
>> detailed study.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Oscar
>
>
> Karl Slifer wrote:
>> I thought that it got absorbed into eg1-dvcs?
>>
>> ---
>> Karl J. Slifer
>> Assistant Professor
>> University of New Hampshire
>> Telephone : 603-722-0695
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 1:57 PM, <narbe at jlab.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Karl,
>>>
>>> If you're referring to the g1d experiment, that unfortunately got killed
>>> back in 2009.
>>>
>>> Narbe
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> LiD has better dilution factor and prob better polarization, but we
>>>> decided
>>>> to not use it for last PAC. Can someone remind me why we backed away
>>> from
>>>> using it? I guess it was the ambiguity of how to treat the Li (=He+D),
>>>> but
>>>> in the mean time, I think Peter ran an experiment comparing LiD to ND3,
>>> so
>>>> we'd be on firmer ground now.
>>>>
>>>> Oscar, I think you looked closely at this. Can we use LiD?
>>>>
>>>> -Karl
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