[BDXlist] [EXTERNAL] BDX in JLab at 24 GeV white paper

Mon May 29 08:43:40 EDT 2023

Folks both slots:

- Today 5pm (ITA time)
- Tomorrow 6 pm (ITA time) 

are fine with me

I suggest to have a meeting TODAY 

M. 

> On 29 May 2023, at 14:36, Andrea Celentano <Andrea.Celentano at ge.infn.it> wrote:
> 
> Ah sorry!! I meant today at 5 pm !! Still confused by night shift!!!
> 
> So, would it be ok to meet TODAY at 5 pm?
> 
>> On 29 May 2023, at 14:22, Marco Battaglieri <battaglieri at ge.infn.it> wrote:
>> 
>>  tomorrow at 5PM I'm not available. What about 65:00PM or 7:00PM?
>> Marco
>> 
>> Andrea Celentano wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> sorry for late reply (night shift!). I am ok for tomorrow at 5PM Rome Time.
>>> 
>>> Bests,
>>> Andrea 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 11:10, Marco Battaglieri via BDXlist <bdxlist at jlab.org> <mailto:bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Tomorrow I have a slot at 1PM-2PM  or after 6:00PM
>>>> Marco 
>>>> 
>>>> Mariangela Bondì via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>> Also Tomorrow all day is ok for me
>>>>> 
>>>>> M. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 10:21, lmarsicano via BDXlist <bdxlist at jlab.org> <mailto:bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am available today and tomorrow, wednesday in the morning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Luca
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2023-05-29 10:11, Mariangela Bondì via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>> My slots are:
>>>>>>> - Today all day
>>>>>>> - Thursday all day
>>>>>>> - Wednesday after 18 (Rome time)
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Mariangela
>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 08:51, Marco Battaglieri via BDXlist
>>>>>>>> <bdxlist at jlab.org> <mailto:bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> I think having a meeting is a good idea.
>>>>>>>> I will not be available on Thursday. What about Tuesday May 30 (any
>>>>>>>> time after 1:30PM CET)?
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>> Andrea Celentano via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear BDX colleagues,
>>>>>>>>> I write you concerning the message that Patrizia sent to the JLab
>>>>>>>>> community, related to the white paper currently being prepared to
>>>>>>>>> address the physics case for a 24 GeV energy upgrade at Jefferson
>>>>>>>>> Laboratory (see below) According to Patrizia’s message, the
>>>>>>>>> final goal is to have the white paper published on a referred
>>>>>>>>> journal.
>>>>>>>>> In Sec. 8.4, “secondary beams”, the projected sensitivity for
>>>>>>>>> BDX at 24 GeV is reported (see below). I think that having the BDX at 24
>>>>>>>>> GeV projection included in this work is really important. However,
>>>>>>>>> given that this result is going to be published in a journal, and
>>>>>>>>> thus available for the whole community, I think that, as BDX
>>>>>>>>> collaboration, we should discuss about how this result was
>>>>>>>>> obtained, and also how this is described in the text.
>>>>>>>>> For example, I think that in the text the fact that this is only a
>>>>>>>>> preliminary estimate should be stated (where the backgrounds at
>>>>>>>>> all evaluated)?
>>>>>>>>> Same for the detector arrangement: was the BDX at 24 GeV reach
>>>>>>>>> computed assuming the same detector configuration (detector
>>>>>>>>> dimensions and distance from the dump)? This cannot be the case,
>>>>>>>>> since the increased muons energy will require more shielding to
>>>>>>>>> range them out.
>>>>>>>>> Finally, I find the format of this plot quite uncommon, since the
>>>>>>>>> X axis is reported in a linear scale, and not log scale.
>>>>>>>>> I think that it would be important to have a dedicated BDX meeting
>>>>>>>>> for this next week.
>>>>>>>>> What do you think about? Usually, we held BDX meetings on Friday,
>>>>>>>>> but Friday June 2nd is holiday in Italy. What about Thursday in
>>>>>>>>> the early afternoon?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Bests,
>>>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
>>>>>>>>> == PATRIZIA’S MESSAGE ==
>>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>>> You are receiving this message because you expressed
>>>>>>>>> support for or participated in one of the many workshops
>>>>>>>>> aimed at pursuing an energy upgrade to 22 GeV of CEBAF
>>>>>>>>> with the goal of advancing the frontiers of our knowledge
>>>>>>>>> across the spectrum of topics in nuclear physics. This
>>>>>>>>> high-impact program at the luminosity frontier will open
>>>>>>>>> up a rich and unique experimental nuclear physics program
>>>>>>>>> that combines illustrious history with an exciting
>>>>>>>>> scientific future.
>>>>>>>>> After a year of intensive workshops, the editorial committee
>>>>>>>>> has collected input from the community and assembled a
>>>>>>>>> White Paper that outlines an exciting scientific program
>>>>>>>>> for the future at Jefferson Lab.  This document is openly
>>>>>>>>> available in the following link
>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1VQelVEu6Sz6Z9cxWV4nkrYMX7NzO1rUP&d=DwIDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Ru7nA6zPBSFajtw1o6aZjchIV9Cs2SBk2RiVldzQhDc&m=LfVk6klWwdSULQ8CjNGZny65Xx2B4gDGoBbOivU7ISG_PEjNMcL7zCcPjwda2y8u&s=SIXcH7p9hwzI3Szv0v16QxVlPtGy4QnYSR7mM-Kui7k&e= [1]
>>>>>>>>> The initial author list contains the editorial committee
>>>>>>>>> as well as some others that have made direct contributions to the
>>>>>>>>> document, but we recognize that many beyond this initial list
>>>>>>>>> are the creators of this program.  This is a grass-roots effort
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>>>>>>>>> There may be others that have expressed interest in this program
>>>>>>>>> or contributed through discussions outside of the dedicated
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>>>>>>>>> series.  Please feel free to forward this message to others
>>>>>>>>> and extend the invitation to sign as a member of the broader
>>>>>>>>> community that generated this document.
>>>>>>>>> We acknowledge that given the breadth of the program it is
>>>>>>>>> challenging for a committee to represent the individual scientific
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>>>>>>>>> and detail as they would themselves.  However, we are unified in
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