[BDXlist] [EXTERNAL] BDX in JLab at 24 GeV white paper

Mon May 29 09:42:50 EDT 2023

Dear all,
Let's meet *today Monday May 29 at 5:00PM CET*
Here is the zoom link
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jlab-2Dorg.zoomgov.com_j_1616478958-3Fpwd-3DbzhlU1VyTmF3elg5RUw1aE9sS2ZHQT09&d=DwIDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Ru7nA6zPBSFajtw1o6aZjchIV9Cs2SBk2RiVldzQhDc&m=iOE2cbPm4WBfeye0IDJa7GoBeCR4xX26sxgKvx3n5LfeWw0MgrevfMBh43SFx8GI&s=htxf7kq6RpxCIOwkVrGx_MsrM789SNPMKSmU_-5Jmj0&e= 
Talk to you in a while
Cheers
Marco

Mariangela Bondì wrote:
> Folks both slots:
>
> - Today 5pm (ITA time)
> - Tomorrow 6 pm (ITA time)
>
> are fine with me
>
> I suggest to have a meeting TODAY
>
> M.
>
>> On 29 May 2023, at 14:36, Andrea Celentano 
>> <Andrea.Celentano at ge.infn.it> wrote:
>>
>> Ah sorry!! I meant today at 5 pm !! Still confused by night shift!!!
>>
>> So, would it be ok to meet TODAY at 5 pm?
>>
>>> On 29 May 2023, at 14:22, Marco Battaglieri <battaglieri at ge.infn.it> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  tomorrow at 5PM I'm not available. What about 65:00PM or 7:00PM?
>>> Marco
>>>
>>> Andrea Celentano wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> sorry for late reply (night shift!). I am ok for tomorrow at 5PM 
>>>> Rome Time.
>>>>
>>>> Bests,
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 11:10, Marco Battaglieri via BDXlist 
>>>>> <bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Tomorrow I have a slot at 1PM-2PM  or after 6:00PM
>>>>> Marco
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariangela Bondì via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>>> Also Tomorrow all day is ok for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 10:21, lmarsicano via BDXlist 
>>>>>>> <bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am available today and tomorrow, wednesday in the morning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Luca
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2023-05-29 10:11, Mariangela Bondì via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>> My slots are:
>>>>>>>> - Today all day
>>>>>>>> - Thursday all day
>>>>>>>> - Wednesday after 18 (Rome time)
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Mariangela
>>>>>>>>> On 29 May 2023, at 08:51, Marco Battaglieri via BDXlist
>>>>>>>>> <bdxlist at jlab.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>> I think having a meeting is a good idea.
>>>>>>>>> I will not be available on Thursday. What about Tuesday May 30 
>>>>>>>>> (any
>>>>>>>>> time after 1:30PM CET)?
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Marco
>>>>>>>>> Andrea Celentano via BDXlist wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dear BDX colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>> I write you concerning the message that Patrizia sent to the JLab
>>>>>>>>>> community, related to the white paper currently being prepared to
>>>>>>>>>> address the physics case for a 24 GeV energy upgrade at Jefferson
>>>>>>>>>> Laboratory (see below) According to Patrizia’s message, the
>>>>>>>>>> final goal is to have the white paper published on a referred
>>>>>>>>>> journal.
>>>>>>>>>> In Sec. 8.4, “secondary beams”, the projected sensitivity for
>>>>>>>>>> BDX at 24 GeV is reported (see below). I think that having the 
>>>>>>>>>> BDX at 24
>>>>>>>>>> GeV projection included in this work is really important. 
>>>>>>>>>> However,
>>>>>>>>>> given that this result is going to be published in a journal, and
>>>>>>>>>> thus available for the whole community, I think that, as BDX
>>>>>>>>>> collaboration, we should discuss about how this result was
>>>>>>>>>> obtained, and also how this is described in the text.
>>>>>>>>>> For example, I think that in the text the fact that this is 
>>>>>>>>>> only a
>>>>>>>>>> preliminary estimate should be stated (where the backgrounds at
>>>>>>>>>> all evaluated)?
>>>>>>>>>> Same for the detector arrangement: was the BDX at 24 GeV reach
>>>>>>>>>> computed assuming the same detector configuration (detector
>>>>>>>>>> dimensions and distance from the dump)? This cannot be the case,
>>>>>>>>>> since the increased muons energy will require more shielding to
>>>>>>>>>> range them out.
>>>>>>>>>> Finally, I find the format of this plot quite uncommon, since the
>>>>>>>>>> X axis is reported in a linear scale, and not log scale.
>>>>>>>>>> I think that it would be important to have a dedicated BDX 
>>>>>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>>>>> for this next week.
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think about? Usually, we held BDX meetings on Friday,
>>>>>>>>>> but Friday June 2nd is holiday in Italy. What about Thursday in
>>>>>>>>>> the early afternoon?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Bests,
>>>>>>>>>> Andrea
>>>>>>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
>>>>>>>>>> == PATRIZIA’S MESSAGE ==
>>>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>> You are receiving this message because you expressed
>>>>>>>>>> support for or participated in one of the many workshops
>>>>>>>>>> aimed at pursuing an energy upgrade to 22 GeV of CEBAF
>>>>>>>>>> with the goal of advancing the frontiers of our knowledge
>>>>>>>>>> across the spectrum of topics in nuclear physics. This
>>>>>>>>>> high-impact program at the luminosity frontier will open
>>>>>>>>>> up a rich and unique experimental nuclear physics program
>>>>>>>>>> that combines illustrious history with an exciting
>>>>>>>>>> scientific future.
>>>>>>>>>> After a year of intensive workshops, the editorial committee
>>>>>>>>>> has collected input from the community and assembled a
>>>>>>>>>> White Paper that outlines an exciting scientific program
>>>>>>>>>> for the future at Jefferson Lab.  This document is openly
>>>>>>>>>> available in the following link
>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__drive.google.com_file_d_1VQelVEu6Sz6Z9cxWV4nkrYMX7NzO1rUP&d=DwIDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Ru7nA6zPBSFajtw1o6aZjchIV9Cs2SBk2RiVldzQhDc&m=LfVk6klWwdSULQ8CjNGZny65Xx2B4gDGoBbOivU7ISG_PEjNMcL7zCcPjwda2y8u&s=SIXcH7p9hwzI3Szv0v16QxVlPtGy4QnYSR7mM-Kui7k&e=[1]
>>>>>>>>>> The initial author list contains the editorial committee
>>>>>>>>>> as well as some others that have made direct contributions to the
>>>>>>>>>> document, but we recognize that many beyond this initial list
>>>>>>>>>> are the creators of this program.  This is a grass-roots effort
>>>>>>>>>> that started with conversations amongst the recipients of this
>>>>>>>>>> email.  You have all contributed directly or indirectly through
>>>>>>>>>> participation in discussions, providing comments, and asking
>>>>>>>>>> questions.  As such, we would like to invite you to sign the
>>>>>>>>>> document as a coauthor by completing this form:
>>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_aQ6TKqGC2dnwMuGK6&d=DwIDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=Ru7nA6zPBSFajtw1o6aZjchIV9Cs2SBk2RiVldzQhDc&m=LfVk6klWwdSULQ8CjNGZny65Xx2B4gDGoBbOivU7ISG_PEjNMcL7zCcPjwda2y8u&s=kx4P2ldiMPn0y5cCwugwCv2OpB2S55iKVMtcu0UCrSY&e= [2]
>>>>>>>>>> There may be others that have expressed interest in this program
>>>>>>>>>> or contributed through discussions outside of the dedicated
>>>>>>>>>> workshop
>>>>>>>>>> series.  Please feel free to forward this message to others
>>>>>>>>>> and extend the invitation to sign as a member of the broader
>>>>>>>>>> community that generated this document.
>>>>>>>>>> We acknowledge that given the breadth of the program it is
>>>>>>>>>> challenging for a committee to represent the individual 
>>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>>> interests of all members of the community with the same emphasis
>>>>>>>>>> and detail as they would themselves.  However, we are unified in
>>>>>>>>>> our goal of pursuing world class science.
>>>>>>>>>> The deadline to sign as an author is June 7 at close of
>>>>>>>>>> business (5 p.m. EDT). We are planning to submit to the arXiv
>>>>>>>>>> after deadline and submit for publication in a refereed journal.
>>>>>>>>>> On behalf of the editorial committee,
>>>>>>>>>> Patrizia Rossi
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