[Chep2021-iac] [EXTERNAL] Re: CHEP2022??
Danilo Piparo
danilo.piparo at cern.ch
Mon Aug 31 06:11:10 EDT 2020
Dear all,
let me also thank the organising committee for managing so well the
organisation of such a big event in this unique situation.
I support rescheduling CHEP in 2022. Let me reinforce a point which has
been raised already: the CHEP proceedings are about the only way to
document in a paper the progress done in many corners in the area of
software and computing, especially by younger colleagues. For what
concerns the form in which we prefer to have a checkpoint in 2021, both
CHEP-inos and attaching topical workshop(s) to other events could work.
Cheers,
Danilo
On 31.08.20 11:57, Concezio Bozzi wrote:
> Dear all
>
> first of all I would like to thank the organising committee for all
> their efforts in these very challenging time to organise a big
> conference as CHEP.
>
> I also support rescheduling to 2022. The idea of online topical
> workshop(s) in 2021, as others have suggested, is a good one, provided
> we avoid clashing with other events. I also agree with the idea of
> journal publications before the event(s), to boost the publication
> rate of our community, People are doing a lot of good work but they
> are generally shy in publishing their results.
>
> Cheers
> Concezio
>
>
>> On 31 Aug 2020, at 11:44, Oxana Smirnova <oxana.smirnova at hep.lu.se
>> <mailto:oxana.smirnova at hep.lu.se>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I certainly support re-scheduling to 2022!
>>
>> With regards to virtual workshops for the sake of generating
>> publications, I am less enthusiastic. A normal journal paper, like
>> Michel suggests, is still a valid option for those who want to make
>> their results seen. I even have this hope that more people will
>> consider journal publications now that there are fewer conference
>> proceedings.
>>
>> But of course topical workshops, perhaps linked to WLCG, HSF and/or
>> HEPiX are always a good idea. And paper-before-talk is an excellent
>> suggestion!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Oxana
>>
>> On 2020-08-31 08:07, Gordon T. Watts wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I like how the form says “2021 or die” rather than “2021 and die”…
>>> Sorry – morbid humor. As someone that is organizing a large
>>> conference in the summer of 2021…
>>>
>>> I support the rescheduling.
>>>
>>> As for the smaller workshops (CHEPinos – love that – though some
>>> of the “inos” are way more massive, btw, than the SM particles…). I
>>> think we might encourage some focused workshps, perhaps, and for
>>> those virtual workshops have a publication. It would be a great
>>> place, for example, to try out paper-before-talk, etc. This would
>>> mean a modest fee, of course, and I think most people would be
>>> comfortable paying for that. And doing it with the HSF and perhaps
>>> other journals is a great idea.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Gordon.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chep2021-iac <chep2021-iac-bounces at jlab.org
>>> <mailto:chep2021-iac-bounces at jlab.org>> *On Behalf Of *Niko Neufeld
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 30, 2020 6:29 AM
>>> *To:* chep2021-iac at jlab.org <mailto:chep2021-iac at jlab.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Chep2021-iac] [EXTERNAL] Re: CHEP2022??
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I am a bit more optimistic regarding the possibility to travel next
>>> year than the majority of the list, but of course I fully understand
>>> that the financial risk must be minimised. Having been now in some
>>> of these pure Online events makes me appreciate a “classical”
>>> conference much more than I had before the Covid-crisis (and I still
>>> have the fondest memories of my first CHEP in Victoria). It has been
>>> mentioned that not having a conference in 2021 might make some
>>> younger colleagues miss the opportunity for their first “big” paper
>>> during their current contract and given how hard (impossible) it is
>>> to place some of our technical work in other computing conferences
>>> this is I think a real concern. Maybe around some of the proposed
>>> “replacement” events one could organise a light-weight special
>>> edition of a journal to give an opportunity for a “real”
>>> publication? Of course even with a light-weight editing process as
>>> customary for CHEP proceedings this is still a fair amount of work.
>>>
>>> It seems to me that in the mid-term what could be useful to have
>>> for a big conference like CHEP is a kind of standing account, (maybe
>>> fed by the occasional small surplus?) which could be used as an
>>> “insurance” in situations such as the present, so that the
>>> organizers of future events have a bit more freedom when weighing
>>> cost and benefit and risk. Of course we all hope that such an event
>>> as Covid remains the rare exception.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Niko
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Aug 2020, at 11:14, Lucia Silvestris
>>> <Lucia.Silvestris at cern.ch
>>> <mailto:Lucia.Silvestris at cern.ch> <mailto:Lucia.Silvestris at cern.ch>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Amber, Graham, all;
>>>
>>> First of all, I would like to thanks Amber and the full team for
>>> organize this conference in a such difficult time.
>>>
>>> I also support the move to 2022. In addition, as said by Marc
>>> will be very important that the different important computing
>>> conferences define their new schedule avoiding as much as possible
>>> overlap. So will be very important that the different organize
>>> committee work together to define new dates.
>>>
>>> Themed virtual workshops in 2021 should be encouraged.
>>>
>>> Let's hope that in between a COVID vaccine is discovered,
>>> produced and distributed worldwide, in a way that we can safety
>>> restart to travel and have the usual nice conferences in person.
>>>
>>> Lucia
>>>
>>> On 28/08/2020 15:28, Amber Boehnlein wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear CHEP IAC,
>>>
>>> Greetings!
>>>
>>> Jefferson Lab has a new events coordinator on staff, Anita
>>> Seay. Her first action was to negotiate with the hotels and the
>>> city of Norfolk about the possibilities concerning CHEP2021. The
>>> negotiating position is much stronger now than in May. The City of
>>> Norfolk and the hotels are making a recommendation to the hotels’
>>> corporate offices of moving the conference without penalty to either
>>> Spring or Fall of 2022 if we can sign a contract that commits to an
>>> event in Norfolk in 2022 at the original number of attendees.
>>>
>>> This is not the standard process for selecting the next CHEP,
>>> I know. Unusual times call for unusual actions. However, please
>>> let us know if you concur or not with the prospective date change
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_BGiM1qxStCagGLeFA&d=DwIFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=5DZHcMcight_dBsf2ORS9yIAvdeaeNcwHFyhjzgr2qo&m=HzTBraADkQDkZMZ_WCVafbhAkgVcSI9sDTQOrvuqyFc&s=kNrm6vjI_V5feXW4iA4at2IQLqsiX62khpnSX1rvdic&e=
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_BGiM1qxStCagGLeFA&d=DwMGaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=5DZHcMcight_dBsf2ORS9yIAvdeaeNcwHFyhjzgr2qo&m=-SD-T3x4iLrcLeZgaxOn5c3BrNx0AgHu_s0x5G3T_hA&s=4R1qIPCfMVYl885ZbxlPeVTtnb4agCp0ChDeSFqS1Uk&e=> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__forms.gle_BGiM1qxStCagGLeFA&d=DwMDaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=5DZHcMcight_dBsf2ORS9yIAvdeaeNcwHFyhjzgr2qo&m=pqausEZlorcMFreG7uEM-p4kLzQpHnjZgdW_U90qq-I&s=CdNzEPHyD_yNadTG5ZL4NHnPyDYXultGOxNJWbAvvc4&e=> If
>>> a quorum of you do, and the corporate offices agree, Graham, Anita
>>> and I will submit an updated proposal to this body and we can
>>> discuss dates.
>>>
>>> We can then discuss what to do about 2021 as well. I like the
>>> idea of Regional virtual ‘CHEPinos’ with maybe some abbreviated
>>> ‘plenary’ format.
>>>
>>> The alternative is to proceed with the planning for an
>>> in-person CHEP2021 for reasons I’ll explain when we next meet.
>>>
>>> Thank you so much, and we request a response by Sept 1.
>>>
>>> Amber and Graham
>>>
>>> Amber Boehnlein
>>>
>>> Computational Sciences and Technology Division Director
>>>
>>> CIO
>>>
>>> Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility
>>>
>>> amber at jlab.org <mailto:amber at jlab.org> <mailto:amber at jlab.org>
>>>
>>> 7572697622
>>>
>>>
>>>
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