[Dsg-ft] [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125

Mon Sep 25 20:17:20 EDT 2017

Dear Walt,

tomorrow morning Stepan and I are busy with the Hall B science readiness review.
I can be available after 2.30 pm (at 1.30 pm I have the Hall A meeting) but I don’t know about Stepan.

patrizia
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> On 25/set/2017, at 20:12, Walt Akers / JLAB <akers at jlab.org> wrote:
> 
> Good evening all...
> 
> Sadly, I spent most of my afternoon programming, so I didn't
> engage this until a few minutes ago.  Needless to say, I believe
> we can resolve the space issues with a minimal amount of fuss
> if we get together and work through the issues.
> 
> Let me speak with Patrizia and Stepan tomorrow and see if they
> have some time to join us tomorrow morning and we'll decide
> what the best approach is to keep everyone on schedule and,
> perhaps, tidying things up a bit.
> 
> Walt
> 
> Marco Contalbrigo wrote:
>> Dear Amrit,
>> let me try to summarize my present understanding about
>> EEL-125 use.
>> 
>> Space: RICH assembling would likely need more space than
>> expected due to the complex procedure and several
>> delicate elements. However, looking at the screenshot
>> of Bob Miller, I realized the SVT+MM system will be
>> moved out of the clean room at the end of October.
>> This will free the space in time for the most critical
>> activity (aerogel assembling). To remove unnecessary
>> stuff or re-organize part of the services (i.e. tables)
>> might solve the issue without the need of moving
>> the SVT+MM in advance.
>> 
>> Clean: the RICH group has always scheduled a cleanup
>> action between the tasks to be performed before
>> the critical element assembling. This cleanup
>> has not been very well defined yet but the actions
>> Yuri is listing are all going in the same direction.
>> I am in favor of them. Who should do what has
>> to be agreeded, and RICH will cover his part by sure.
>> 
>> Of course, I might not have all the details under
>> control and I am at disposal to further discuss the
>> above points in order to reach a practical agreement.
>> 
>> Best regards, Marco.
>> 
>> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> your understanding of the situation is meager, at best unsatisfactory!
>>> but that's ok
>>> not 2 years ago you were doing the kazatsky to maintain the clean room.
>>> hallb engineering, you , and dsg were supposed to take turns keeping the clean room
>>> clean.
>>> we had a meeting with patrizia.
>>> george wrote up command orders.
>>> dsg even hired a person to keep the room clean.
>>> she still cleans the place.
>>> but to the best of my knowledge, neither you, nor hallb engineering, nor the mvt
>>> crew etc etc who use the room did diddly squat of cleaning.
>>> capire!
>>> 
>>> be it known to all that dsg is not the local janitorial group.
>>> do what you preach.
>>> organize a group to do all the things you are suggesting, participate. go ahead
>>> make my day.
>>> the guys who made the mess should be the guys who should be cleaning the mess,
>>> isn't that so?
>>> 
>>> having said this, if you continue knowingly or unknowingly (ignorance is no excuse)
>>> on this track, you'll not only upset me but the entire dsg group, including brian!
>>> think about it. that kid has iron in his soul.
>>> 
>>> the tzar's era ended long ago son!
>>> so, knock it off
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ 
>>> From: "Yuri Gotra" <gotra at jlab.org>
>>> To: "Amrit Yegneswaran" <yeg at jlab.org>
>>> Cc: "dsg-rich" <dsg-rich at jlab.org>, "dsg-svt" <dsg-svt at jlab.org>, "rmiller"
>>> <rmiller at jlab.org>, "Maxime Defurne" <mdefurne at jlab.org>, "Patrizia Rossi"
>>> <rossi at jlab.org>, "Volker Burkert" <burkert at jlab.org>, dsg-mvt at jlab.org,
>>> dsg-ft at jlab.org, "Franck Sabatié" <fsabatie at gmail.com>, "Walt Akers"
>>> <akers at jlab.org>, "Marco Contalbrigo" <mcontalb at fe.infn.it>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 5:38:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [dsg-svt] [Dsg-mvt] [Dsg-rich] space in back of EEL 125
>>> 
>>> My understanding is that the question for RICH assembly is more related to the
>>> condition of the clean room rather than the lack of space. In any case there are
>>> some actions which could benefit both.
>>> 
>>> Here is what could be done:
>>> 
>>> - remove items being stored in EEL124 which are not related to CLAS12 commissioning
>>> activity ongoing in EEL124 (this would provide extra space and make the room
>>> cleaner)
>>> 
>>> - enforce the clean room rules (gowning, moving items to the clean room, etc.)
>>> 
>>> - clean the gowning area and replace the sticky mats (the present lat mat is ugly
>>> and violates the rules)
>>> 
>>> - put patches on the broken floor epoxy coating (walking on the broken coating
>>> generates dust)
>>> 
>>> - vacuum clean the floor and the top of the remaining cabinets
>>> 
>>> - check the status of the EEL124 dust monitor
>>> 
>>> - consider building the canopy over the RICH (check with Youri Sharabian whether he
>>> could provide his HTCC clean room parts)
>>> 
>>> There are 2 weeks after the scheduled moving of the CVT to the hall (October 30)
>>> when RICH will be the only user of the clean room.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/25/17 3:15 PM, Yuri Gotra wrote:
>>> 
>>>      We did not receive any request from RICH group that they need
>>>      additional space. Per prior agreement with RICH group and Walt the CVT
>>>      will stay in EEL124 till it will be moved to the hall. Small (SVT)
>>>      clean room was made available for RICH assembly. I will check with
>>>      Marco.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>      On 9/25/17 3:05 PM, Amrit Yegneswaran wrote:
>>>      we are looking at a new chapter on how to proceed, given the
>>>      delay.
>>> not a re-iteration of the old schedule.
>>> in the end, if appropriate and reasonable changes aren't implemented
>>> one shouldn't be surprised at the outcome.
>>> 
>>> RICH needs clean room space at the back where the SVT/MVT is to
>>> assemble the aerogel/the mirrors etc.
>>> the svt/mvt doesn't need clean room space for cosmic data, am i wrong?
>>> anyway, mine is only to suggest how to run things smoothly as i see it,
>>> not enforce it.
>>> klaro!
>>> 
>>> 
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