[Dsg-rtpc] Questions about the gas systems
Brian Eng
beng at jlab.org
Tue Jun 26 17:34:31 EDT 2018
Are you referring to the FO# from George's PID concept drawing?
In which case that's just a drilled orifice used to limit the flow.
I'm not sure of the exact part number, but here's a description: http://catalog.okeefecontrols.com/viewitems/precision-metal-orifices-pressure-snubbers/pressure-snubbers-npt-pipe-adapter
> On Jun 26, 2018, at 5:24 PM, William Crahen <wcrahen at jlab.org> wrote:
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> So this valve has a minimum crack pressure of 25 psig, which would be okay, it just means that all piping going from the gas shed to the mass flow controller must be per ASME B31.3, or perhaps B31.9 (We used 31.9 for the hall D FDC, and Tim Whitlatch is on the pressure system committee, so I don't see a reason we can't use for the CO2/Helium stuff). I see what appears to be an orifice disc on the high pressure side of the supply regulator-do we have the cut sheet on that? that is typically the design limiter for un-controlled flow- you assume the regulator fails at full gas bottle pressure (3500 psi?) and calculate what flow can occur- that sizes your relief valve.
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> On 6/26/2018 4:47 PM, Brian Eng wrote:
>> Not sure if it's on hand or not, but here's some information on that ASME relief valve from their site: http://www.cdivalve.com/products/valves/air-compressor-valves/asme-code-safety-valves
>>
>> Specs: http://www.cdivalve.com/images/uploads/ST.png
>> Drawing: http://www.cdivalve.com/files/upload/23/st25.pdf
>> Flow Chart: http://www.cdivalve.com/files/upload/23/flow_charts_st.pdf
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>> On Jun 26, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Carlos Ayerbe <gayoso at jlab.org> wrote:
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>>> FYI
>>>
>>> Goerge already has it.
>>>
>>> -Carlos
>>>
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: "William Crahen" <wcrahen at jlab.org>
>>> To: "George Jacobs" <jacobsg at jlab.org>, "Carlos Ayerbe Gayoso" <gayoso at jlab.org>
>>> Cc: "Bob Miller" <rmiller at jlab.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 4:30:48 PM
>>> Subject: Questions about the gas systems
>>>
>>> Hi guys- Carlos provided me with some documentation on the parts you are
>>> planning to use- I see a parts list showing a relief valve RV1 = STLMO
>>> model ST25-1/4", set to crack at 75 psi, presumably accommodating 74
>>> scfm at some higher pressure. Do you plan to use this? If so, I need to
>>> see a cut sheet on it with flow curves, etc. Alternately, is this
>>> replaced by the CONRADER valve I find elsewhere in this documentation?
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