[Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question
Greg Kibilko
greg at setechsales.com
Tue Feb 18 15:03:08 EST 2020
Hi Aaron,
Very good. Gianni is home sick, but I did Skype with him and his
schedule for March is full. We're aiming for April. I should be able
to propose some dates for you this week.
Best,
Greg
On 2/18/2020 1:31 PM, Aaron Brown wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> If April is the best time for you guys, it works for us.
>
> Best regards,
> Aaron
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:38 AM
> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org>; Gianni Di Maio
> <g.dimaio at caen.it>; Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org>
> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org>; dsg-hallc controls
> <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Alberto Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it>
> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
> Question
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Ok, fantastic. This gives us plenty of time to work with.
>
> How about timeline? Is April too late?
>
> Cheers,
> Greg
>
> On 2/18/2020 10:36 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>> Morning Greg,
>>
>> The only day/time I can think of that /might/ pose a problem would be
>> Wednesday afternoons between 1 and 3.
>> Other than that, there is nothing that can't be worked around.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:32 AM
>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org> <mailto:ambrown at jlab.org>;
>> Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>; Amrit
>> Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Alberto Lucchesi
>> <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>> Question
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> I am sure Gianni will agree that a visit is in order.
>>
>> In the next couple of months are there any specific days/weeks we
>> should target to visit? Or days/weeks we should try to avoid?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Greg
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 10:30 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>>> Hello Gianni,
>>>
>>> We currently have 33 A7030TN modules and 2 SY4527 crates on hand.
>>> I think that best idea would be to have someone from CAEN make a
>>> visit to the lab and take a look/fix the connector pins.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Aaron Brown
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 12:12 PM
>>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org> <mailto:ambrown at jlab.org>;
>>> Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>> Question
>>> Hello Aaron,
>>> thank you very much for the details.
>>> Really strange a so high number of problems on the panel connector,
>>> as told from our experience it is more problematic the cable
>>> connector, this is the reason that we add the hot glue.
>>> At this point let me know how you wish proceed.
>>> To rework/repair the boards with pins pushed out we have two
>>> solutions, you ship the boards to our office in NY, or I could make
>>> an intervention in JLAB in spring.
>>> How many boards you have in total?
>>> May be it's worth to have a look to al the boards.
>>>
>>> Waiting your comments.
>>> Best regards.
>>> Gianni
>>>
>>> Il 14/02/2020 16:48, Aaron Brown ha scritto:
>>>> Hello Gianni,
>>>>
>>>> We have experienced the issue of pins getting pushed back 12
>>>> separate times;
>>>> 8 times it was the pins for the safety loops, and 4 times is was an
>>>> arbitrary pin.
>>>> All occurrences were on the board R52 connector (male).
>>>> I have attached a photo to highlight exactly what we're describing.
>>>> Also attached is a photo of the inside of one of the boards showing
>>>> how the channel pins
>>>> are strain relieved, but the safety loop pins are not.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to send an email
>>>> to the mailing list.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards,
>>>> Aaron Brown
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Gianni Di
>>>> Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 3:26 AM
>>>> *To:* Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>>>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>>>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>>> Question
>>>> Dear Amrit,
>>>>
>>>> thank you for your email, I apologize I was not aware about the dsg
>>>> mailing list (dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>).
>>>> I full agree with you the pushed pins issue will be surely
>>>> addressed by CAEN, we are considering to do a maintenance
>>>> intervention at JLAB in the next future.
>>>> What I would like to know to have a clear idea of the situation is
>>>> How many boards with pushed pin/s you have?
>>>> How many pins per board?
>>>> If I well understood ( but may be I'm wrong) there are 4 boards
>>>> with this issue, that is one pin pushed back,and every time is one
>>>> of the two safety pin loop.
>>>>
>>>> Could you or some one of the group confirm me these numbers?
>>>>
>>>> Or in case I'm wrong could you provide me a report updated to today?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards.
>>>>
>>>> Gianni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 13/02/2020 19:16, Amrit Yegneswaran ha scritto:
>>>>> hello,
>>>>> this issue of pushed pins needs to be addressed by CAEN.
>>>>> dsg is not in this business.
>>>>> also, i am very disappointed that i'm receiving the gianni's
>>>>> e-mail only today now.
>>>>> i urge all of you, for the sake of transparency, particularly
>>>>> from the caen side to use the mailing list, like we do here at jlab.
>>>>> amrit
>>>>> if anyone in the dsg group receives a "singular" e-mail make sure
>>>>> you broadcast it to the mailing list.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Brian
>>>>> Eng <beng at jlab.org> <mailto:beng at jlab.org>
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:32 PM
>>>>> *To:* dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* [Dsg-hallc_controls] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>>>> Question
>>>>> In regards to Brad's previous email about the potting material
>>>>> here's one of the emails CAEN sent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still waiting on more feedback since we've definitely seen it on
>>>>> the board side multiple times.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From: *Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>>
>>>>>> *Subject: **Re: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question*
>>>>>> *Date: *February 6, 2020 at 5:42:31 PM EST
>>>>>> *To: *Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org <mailto:beng at jlab.org>>
>>>>>> *Cc: *Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com
>>>>>> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Brian,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> please could you tell me if the pins pushed out are present only
>>>>>> on the RADIALL connector installed on the boards (female) or
>>>>>> even on the RADIALL connectors installed on the cables ( male).
>>>>>> >From my experience usually in the past the problem appeared only
>>>>>> on cable side, this is the reason that we decided to add the hot
>>>>>> glue, in order to strengthen the tightness of the pin and prevent
>>>>>> a possible escape from the correct position, but this as said
>>>>>> only for the cable connector.
>>>>>> The problem on the panel connector is very rare, how many
>>>>>> problematic boards you have with pins pushed out?
>>>>>> Could you send me some pictures?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>> Gianni
>>>>>
>>>>
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