[Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question
Gianni Di Maio
g.dimaio at caen.it
Fri Feb 21 17:13:20 EST 2020
Dear Aaron,
as told by Greg April could be OK with us to visit you.
If possible I would like to have a look to all the boards connectors (
to rework partially the RADIALL connector and in particularly the safety
loop pin).
Anyway for the moment just let me know if April is OK, I will send
later a list of rework I would like to do on the boards and cables.
Have a nice week end to everybody
Gianni
Il 18/02/2020 21:03, Greg Kibilko ha scritto:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Very good. Gianni is home sick, but I did Skype with him and his
> schedule for March is full. We're aiming for April. I should be able
> to propose some dates for you this week.
>
> Best,
> Greg
>
> On 2/18/2020 1:31 PM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> If April is the best time for you guys, it works for us.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Aaron
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:38 AM
>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org>; Gianni Di Maio
>> <g.dimaio at caen.it>; Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org>
>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org>; dsg-hallc controls
>> <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Alberto Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>> Question
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> Ok, fantastic. This gives us plenty of time to work with.
>>
>> How about timeline? Is April too late?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg
>>
>> On 2/18/2020 10:36 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>>> Morning Greg,
>>>
>>> The only day/time I can think of that /might/ pose a problem would
>>> be Wednesday afternoons between 1 and 3.
>>> Other than that, there is nothing that can't be worked around.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com>
>>> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 18, 2020 10:32 AM
>>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org> <mailto:ambrown at jlab.org>;
>>> Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>; Amrit
>>> Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Alberto Lucchesi
>>> <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>> Question
>>> Hi Aaron,
>>>
>>> I am sure Gianni will agree that a visit is in order.
>>>
>>> In the next couple of months are there any specific days/weeks we
>>> should target to visit? Or days/weeks we should try to avoid?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On 2/18/2020 10:30 AM, Aaron Brown wrote:
>>>> Hello Gianni,
>>>>
>>>> We currently have 33 A7030TN modules and 2 SY4527 crates on hand.
>>>> I think that best idea would be to have someone from CAEN make a
>>>> visit to the lab and take a look/fix the connector pins.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Aaron Brown
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 17, 2020 12:12 PM
>>>> *To:* Aaron Brown <ambrown at jlab.org> <mailto:ambrown at jlab.org>;
>>>> Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>>>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>>>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>>> Question
>>>> Hello Aaron,
>>>> thank you very much for the details.
>>>> Really strange a so high number of problems on the panel connector,
>>>> as told from our experience it is more problematic the cable
>>>> connector, this is the reason that we add the hot glue.
>>>> At this point let me know how you wish proceed.
>>>> To rework/repair the boards with pins pushed out we have two
>>>> solutions, you ship the boards to our office in NY, or I could make
>>>> an intervention in JLAB in spring.
>>>> How many boards you have in total?
>>>> May be it's worth to have a look to al the boards.
>>>>
>>>> Waiting your comments.
>>>> Best regards.
>>>> Gianni
>>>>
>>>> Il 14/02/2020 16:48, Aaron Brown ha scritto:
>>>>> Hello Gianni,
>>>>>
>>>>> We have experienced the issue of pins getting pushed back 12
>>>>> separate times;
>>>>> 8 times it was the pins for the safety loops, and 4 times is was
>>>>> an arbitrary pin.
>>>>> All occurrences were on the board R52 connector (male).
>>>>> I have attached a photo to highlight exactly what we're describing.
>>>>> Also attached is a photo of the inside of one of the boards
>>>>> showing how the channel pins
>>>>> are strain relieved, but the safety loop pins are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to send an email
>>>>> to the mailing list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> Aaron Brown
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Gianni
>>>>> Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it> <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>
>>>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 14, 2020 3:26 AM
>>>>> *To:* Amrit Yegneswaran <yeg at jlab.org> <mailto:yeg at jlab.org>
>>>>> *Cc:* Patrizia Rossi <rossi at jlab.org> <mailto:rossi at jlab.org>;
>>>>> dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>; Greg Kibilko
>>>>> <greg at setechsales.com> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>; Alberto
>>>>> Lucchesi <a.lucchesi at caen.it> <mailto:a.lucchesi at caen.it>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Dsg-hallc_controls] [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin
>>>>> Question
>>>>> Dear Amrit,
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you for your email, I apologize I was not aware about the
>>>>> dsg mailing list (dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org
>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>).
>>>>> I full agree with you the pushed pins issue will be surely
>>>>> addressed by CAEN, we are considering to do a maintenance
>>>>> intervention at JLAB in the next future.
>>>>> What I would like to know to have a clear idea of the situation is
>>>>> How many boards with pushed pin/s you have?
>>>>> How many pins per board?
>>>>> If I well understood ( but may be I'm wrong) there are 4 boards
>>>>> with this issue, that is one pin pushed back,and every time is one
>>>>> of the two safety pin loop.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you or some one of the group confirm me these numbers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or in case I'm wrong could you provide me a report updated to today?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gianni
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il 13/02/2020 19:16, Amrit Yegneswaran ha scritto:
>>>>>> hello,
>>>>>> this issue of pushed pins needs to be addressed by CAEN.
>>>>>> dsg is not in this business.
>>>>>> also, i am very disappointed that i'm receiving the gianni's
>>>>>> e-mail only today now.
>>>>>> i urge all of you, for the sake of transparency, particularly
>>>>>> from the caen side to use the mailing list, like we do here at jlab.
>>>>>> amrit
>>>>>> if anyone in the dsg group receives a "singular" e-mail make sure
>>>>>> you broadcast it to the mailing list.
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Dsg-hallc_controls <dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Brian
>>>>>> Eng <beng at jlab.org> <mailto:beng at jlab.org>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 13, 2020 12:32 PM
>>>>>> *To:* dsg-hallc controls <dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>>>> <mailto:dsg-hallc_controls at jlab.org>
>>>>>> *Subject:* [Dsg-hallc_controls] Fwd: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector
>>>>>> Pin Question
>>>>>> In regards to Brad's previous email about the potting material
>>>>>> here's one of the emails CAEN sent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still waiting on more feedback since we've definitely seen it on
>>>>>> the board side multiple times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *Gianni Di Maio <g.dimaio at caen.it <mailto:g.dimaio at caen.it>>
>>>>>>> *Subject: **Re: [EXTERNAL] CAEN Connector Pin Question*
>>>>>>> *Date: *February 6, 2020 at 5:42:31 PM EST
>>>>>>> *To: *Brian Eng <beng at jlab.org <mailto:beng at jlab.org>>
>>>>>>> *Cc: *Greg Kibilko <greg at setechsales.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:greg at setechsales.com>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Brian,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> please could you tell me if the pins pushed out are present only
>>>>>>> on the RADIALL connector installed on the boards (female) or
>>>>>>> even on the RADIALL connectors installed on the cables ( male).
>>>>>>> >From my experience usually in the past the problem appeared
>>>>>>> only on cable side, this is the reason that we decided to add
>>>>>>> the hot glue, in order to strengthen the tightness of the pin
>>>>>>> and prevent a possible escape from the correct position, but
>>>>>>> this as said only for the cable connector.
>>>>>>> The problem on the panel connector is very rare, how many
>>>>>>> problematic boards you have with pins pushed out?
>>>>>>> Could you send me some pictures?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>>> Gianni
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
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