[G12] Fwd: Momentum corrections

[Gagik Gavalian]

Dear All,

I think before someone jumps into writing capitalized words between 
asterisks, we should remember that we were trying to do analysis 
comparison in order to find a physics phenomenon. I believe that anyone 
trying to repeat the analysis of another group, has to be kind enough to 
provide the event numbers for the other group to see, and may be even 
convince themselves that their analysis *MIGHT* be wrong ;-) (couldn't 
resist).

Similar attempt to compare analysis were done by Valeri, who kindly 
provided event numbers and also correction codes used for his analysis.
In this way we were able to proceed very fast through comparison of 
analysis (Thanks to Valeri and his collaborative spirit).

I think if someone is interested in standing on his point, should either 
collaborate with the other group, I don't know, may be provide the codes 
used by him, or should just drop the issue and do not respond to e-mails.
I want to mention that there are no personal attacks here against 
anyone, just a call for not considering their results valid unless full 
details of analysis are provided. DOES not seem unreasonable to me.

The ODU group was always open to requests to show the events and codes 
used in our analysis, which can not be said about some of the other 
groups (or &Co).

Gagik.


Paul Eugenio wrote:
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>> *From: *Matt <mbellis at stanford.edu <mailto:mbellis at stanford.edu>>
>> *Date: *April 14, 2010 8:27:53 PM EDT
>> *To: *mamaryan at odu.edu <mailto:mamaryan at odu.edu>
>> *Cc: *Heghine Seraydaryan <heghines at jlab.org 
>> <mailto:heghines at jlab.org>>, g12 at jlab.org <mailto:g12 at jlab.org>, Paul 
>> Eugenio <eugenio at fsu.edu <mailto:eugenio at fsu.edu>>, Larry Weinstein 
>> <lweinste at odu.edu <mailto:lweinste at odu.edu>>
>> *Subject: **Re: [G12] Momentum corrections*
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>    Paul, this may get bounced from the g12 mailing list, as I am 
>> emailing from a different address than from which I originally 
>> subscribed. Could you please forward it to that list as a record of 
>> this conversation. 
>>  
>>
>>     As for the Bellis analysis, I believe his work was shown to
>>     have some problems that were not addressed, including
>>     the fact that his proton momenta were not sensible, etc.
>>
>>
>>    That is absolutely not true, Moskov, and you are trying to either 
>> misrepresent my work or you are willfully ignoring *multiple* 
>> discussions we had on this matter and which is documented in emails 
>> and on the Wiki. There were *never* any issues with any mass plots or 
>> cuts that were made in my analysis. There was *one* independent set 
>> of plots that were made in order to compare other momentum 
>> distributions to ODU's work and the issue was with a definition of 
>> transverse momentum in Mike William's 4vec class. This has been gone 
>> over *MANY* times with you and Larry and Igor and others and it was 
>> *NEVER* used to make any cuts on the analysis. 
>>
>>    There were *NEVER* any *physics* issues raised with my analysis, 
>> Moskov, though this is not the first time that you have tried to 
>> misrepresent that work. I am disappointed that after we had a similar 
>> email conversation last year on this *very same issue*, that you try 
>> to pull this. I have always been as transparent as possible in every 
>> step of that analysis and those discussions.
>>
>>    I have no idea what the ODU group is doing now, so I cannot 
>> comment on it. But do not think that a plotting issue that was solved 
>> *days after* we showed it at a meeting, in any way discredits the 
>> work that I did, nor that it strengthens any of the previous ODU 
>> analysis. 
>>
>> -- 
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>> Matt Bellis
>> Stanford University
>> (SLAC office)  650-926-4392
>> (cell)    412-310-4586
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