[G12] G12 Kinematic Fitter for pions

[Michael C. Kunkel]

Greetings,

My issue is with the difference of the pulls under the same conditions. 
This should not be. This can only be true if somehow the data sets are 
different. I do not agree with you that we an live with somewhat 
different pull and CL distributions and I believe having a meeting on 
this would be beneficial.

I understand we have been through this several time, in fact it is 
always FSU that brought this up and it was discussed. Now I am bringing 
it up and wish to discuss it. I would hope for the same professional 
courtesy as FSU received on the subject.

BR
MK
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Michael C. Kunkel, PhD
Forschungszentrum Jülich
Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
www.fz-juelich.de/ikp

On 12/18/15 6:16 PM, Volker Crede wrote:
> Michael,
>
> We have been trough this several times and I am afraid we will never 
> agree on these fine-tuning parameters. On the other hand, as long as 
> the actual code is the same, I believe we can live with somewhat 
> different pull and CL distributions … provided they look okay.
>
> - Volker
>
>
> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:11 PM, "Michael C. Kunkel" <mkunkel at jlab.org 
> <mailto:mkunkel at jlab.org>> wrote:
>
>> This is obvious, and hence why Lei asked for everyone to show their 
>> pulls.
>> BR
>> MK
>> ----------------------------------------
>> Michael C. Kunkel, PhD
>> Forschungszentrum Jülich
>> Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
>> Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
>> www.fz-juelich.de/ikp
>> On 12/18/15 6:09 PM, Volker Crede wrote:
>>> Apparently, there is more to it … Our distributions look better.
>>>
>>> - Volker
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Michael C. Kunkel <mkunkel at jlab.org> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Incorrect. If you run a diff on the codes from FSU and the one 
>>>> shown there is no difference in any file.
>>>> BR
>>>> MK
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>> Michael C. Kunkel, PhD
>>>> Forschungszentrum Jülich
>>>> Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
>>>> Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
>>>> www.fz-juelich.de/ikp
>>>> On 12/18/15 5:35 PM, Volker Crede wrote:
>>>>> Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think this is what FSU uses for the pions … Our pulls and 
>>>>> CL distribution look slightly better.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Volker
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 5:49 AM, Michael C. Kunkel <mkunkel at jlab.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Below is a link that shows the pull probability and pull 
>>>>>> distributions look like for the tune channel of p pip pim. These 
>>>>>> parameters are what FSU, ODU, Bochum, and others use for pions.
>>>>>> We had agreed that the pull distributions were adequate if the 
>>>>>> pull probability is adequate.  However as you can see from the 
>>>>>> plot, there is a small rise in the pull probability when it 
>>>>>> approaches 1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.jlab.org/Hall-B/secure/g12/mkunkel/G12_MEETINGS/excl_ppipi_10.pdf
>>>>>> What do you think about this?
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> BR
>>>>>> MK
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>>> Michael C. Kunkel, PhD
>>>>>> Forschungszentrum Jülich
>>>>>> Nuclear Physics Institute and Juelich Center for Hadron Physics
>>>>>> Experimental Hadron Structure (IKP-1)
>>>>>> www.fz-juelich.de/ikp
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