[Gpdtc] [External] Draft merger agreement

Sun Jan 23 09:14:25 EST 2022

Hi Alberto,

Thanks for the suggestion and we are of course happy to implement it.

Regarding the bullets, we (me, Martha, David, and Christian) do see these as "pre-conditions"  for a merger of the two groups, that the whole Coordination Committee should reach agreement on. 

When we discuss and hopefully finalize these bullets in our meeting this afternoon, our plan is to send them to the "LBL" group Monday morning. Then, the LBL group is welcome to suggest changes, which we can accept/decline/discuss. To me these bullets are just pre-requisites for a strong proposal, so if the two groups cannot reach agreement on them, then we have different visions for a strong proposal and merging will be difficult.

So as I see it, our task today is to finalize the set of "key points"/"guiding principles"/"pre-conditions". Then, if the two groups can reach agreement on these points, or reasonable modifications of them, then merging our groups should be straightforward and we should proceed with a merger. However, if we cannot reach agreement, then any merger is paused or perhaps even abandoned.

Anyway, happy to discuss more at our meeting today and finalized our next steps.

Cheers, Ian

On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 18:51:47 -0500
Alberto Accardi <babahrd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes: thank you, indeed!
> 
> Regarding the bridge position, securing Hampton's willingness to open one
> is not guaranteed. In that sense isn't the language a bit too strong?
> Perhaps something like "'[...] as such, we think Hampton U. is an ideal
> target for funding, with the second choice [...]"
> 
> In general, the bullets read as a draft for an official document to be
> agreed upon by the other half of the committee. Is that the intention? I
> thought we wanted to present our ideas, not asking the others to agree on
> pre-conditions, which is the way I fear they will read this document.
> 
> Anyway, it is curious to see Xiandong's name listed as an integral part of
> the "Berkeley Lab" group, rather than a super-partes arbiter as he went out
> of his way to position himself in the town meeting...  But I also agree
> that, in practice, the other group is where he belongs.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>     Alberto
> 
> P.S.
> I marked myself as available tomorrow in the poll, and I will do my best to
> join even though I am not entirely sure I will be able to.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:19 PM Jianwei Qiu <jqiu at jlab.org> wrote:
> 
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I would like to second what Andreas said "Thank you very much, Ian,
> > Martha, David and Christian!"
> >
> > This document covers all important issues that are needed to ensure a
> > successful merge of two groups with well defined physics objectives and
> > mechanism to achieve them.
> >
> > Since SC has only 8 people, the 75% is effectively saying that at least 6
> > people are needed for any major changes of these guiding principles.  I
> > think, this is a reasonable choice in view of the fact that each group has
> > 4 people on SC.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Jianwei
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Gpdtc <gpdtc-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of Andreas Metz <
> > andreas.metz at temple.edu>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 22, 2022 5:59 PM
> > *To:* David Richards <dgr at jlab.org>; gpdtc at jlab.org <gpdtc at jlab.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Gpdtc] [External] Draft merger agreement
> >
> > Thank you very much, Ian, Martha, David and Christian!  In my opinion,
> > this looks very good and covers the essential points in a concise manner.
> >
> > A minor point that I have is about item 10, the "75% majority vote."  I
> > understand the rationale behind this but, at the present stage, such a rule
> > may be perceived as quite bold by the other group.  Maybe there is a "safe"
> > way to water this down a bit.?  But take a final decision on this as you
> > see fit.
> >
> > Most likely I won't join tomorrow, but I have full confidence that the
> > document will be finalized in the best way possible.
> >
> > Thank you again for your tremendous and very important work!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Andreas
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* Gpdtc <gpdtc-bounces at jlab.org> on behalf of David Richards <
> > dgr at jlab.org>
> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 22, 2022 5:19 PM
> > *To:* gpdtc at jlab.org <gpdtc at jlab.org>
> > *Subject:* [External] [Gpdtc] Draft merger agreement
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > We have just had a long discussion to reach a consensus on the bullet
> > points to present to Feng, Ismail, Phiala and Xiangdong in advance of a
> > meeting we have arranged with them for 4pm on Monday.  We are currently
> > refining the document, and expect to have that completed by 930am tomorrow
> > morning.  Please take a look at that document, though please add comments
> > below rather than altering the bullets as written.
> >
> > We aim to reach an agreement on this document tomorrow afternoon, and then
> > present it as our collective bullet points to the other team to implement
> > the merger.
> >
> > Please complete the “when2meet” for tomorrow afternoon at
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.when2meet.com_-3F14271198-2DYwZ4E&d=DwIFaQ&c=CJqEzB1piLOyyvZjb8YUQw&r=O0ypPvcn8ZUcU42oKTSHzQ&m=evhKTl5RcxIZNdYb61yLMgUmWdFgsDFAejuwbYTeGUhns4Pii0ObCnPa0SVjadHK&s=-_xa8j0qlMjTEd1c-Xf64RgdDq8gT5kmsZXpTRVJhNI&e= 
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> >  If you are unable to attend the meeting in person, and have
> > comments, please place them at the end of the document, after the bullets.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ian, Martha, David and Christian
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