[Halld-tracking-hw] New preamp - resending table

Yves Van Haarlem yvhaarle at ernest.phys.cmu.edu
Fri Apr 9 11:56:36 EDT 2010


Hi Fernando,

Thank you - that was my main concern. I believe you want to keep the 
mapping as simple as possible to avoid misstakes.

Best regards,
 	Yves

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On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Fernando J. Barbosa wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> Just for clarification, the new cable should have a one-to-one correspondence 
> to the new preamp and the fADC125. This is HVB chs 24-1 map into new cable 
> chs 1-24 which map into fADC125 chs 1-24. I will re-label the new HVB chs 
> 1-24 as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Fernando
>
>
>
> Fernando J. Barbosa wrote:
>> Hi Yves,
>> 
>> Your table is correct.
>> 
>> Thanks and best regards,
>> Fernando
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
>>> I think the formatting got weird up in previous mail:
>>> 
>>> HV-board-ch || old-cable ch# || new cable ch# || fADC ch#
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 24  || 1   || 1   || 1
>>> 23     2      2      2
>>> 22     3      3      3
>>> 21     4      4      4
>>> 20     5      5      5
>>> 19     6      6      6
>>> 18     7      7      7
>>> 17     8      8      8
>>> 16     9     17 !
>>> 15    10     18
>>> 14    11     19
>>> 13    12     20
>>> 12    13     21
>>> 11    14     22
>>> 10    15     23
>>> 9     16     24
>>> 8     17      9 !    9
>>> 7     18     10     10
>>> 6     19     11     11
>>> 5     20     12     12
>>> 4     21     13     13
>>> 3     22     14     14
>>> 2     23     15     15
>>> 1     24     16     16
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, Yves Van Haarlem wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Fernando,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a suggestion below,
>>>> 
>>>>>> My other concern is over the mapping of the preamp channels through the
>>>>>> cable.  We are now using the new preamp and new cable with the old HV
>>>>>> board.  The correspondence between the numbering on the HV board and 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> preamp channels has changed.  Is this now the final mapping?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Previously we were using the cable with channels 1-8 and 17-24 feeding 
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the shaper unit, which has 16 channels total, and then into two 
>>>>>> 8-channel
>>>>>> fADCs.  The chamber prototype is configured so that the missing 8 
>>>>>> channels
>>>>>> correspond to the straws along 2 sides of the chamber; the two groups 
>>>>>> of 8
>>>>>> channels in use correspond to two blocks of 8 straws, one above the 
>>>>>> other.
>>>>>> With the new cable it seems that we now have access to the 8 channels 
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> were missing before (along the edge), but since we only have 16 
>>>>>> channels
>>>>>> from the shaper, we have lost access to one block of 8 straws.  This 
>>>>>> makes
>>>>>> cosmic ray tracking much slower, since we are looking for tracks 
>>>>>> passing
>>>>>> through at least 4 straws.  This is hard to explain without a diagram 
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> the effect is that the configuration of our available channels is much 
>>>>>> less
>>>>>> as efficient than before.  This will be solved when we have a 
>>>>>> 72-channel
>>>>>> fADC; alternatively we could just use the old cable until the new fADC 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> available.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The old preamps (also designed for 24-channels) had only two chips 
>>>>> installed
>>>>> (on top) because the ASIC package was not reliable for assembly on the 
>>>>> bottom
>>>>> (it had a removable lid in case we needed to probe the die). The preamp 
>>>>> card
>>>>> has channels 1-8 from one chip on top, 9-16 from bottom chip and 17-24 
>>>>> from
>>>>> the second chip on top. Because of the 16-channel readout on the shaper, 
>>>>> the
>>>>> cable (old cable) was modified at the ERNI connector (connects to 
>>>>> preamp) to
>>>>> read channels 1-8 and 17-24. This is the reason for what you observe 
>>>>> with the
>>>>> new cable. This won't be the case with the 72-ch fADC125 because it 
>>>>> reads
>>>>> from all 24 channels on a preamp card. Yes, please you use the old cable 
>>>>> with
>>>>> the new preamp and shaper for your immediate tests and then use the new 
>>>>> cable
>>>>> when the 72-ch fADC125 becomes available (late April).
>>>> 
>>>> Once it is decided which group of 8 channels goes where on the cable
>>>> (between HV-board and fADC), could you modify the labeling of the 
>>>> channels
>>>> on the HV board so that channel 1 -> 24 on the HV-board corresponds to
>>>> channel 1 -> 24 on the fADC (or 25 -> 48; or 49 -> 72). We might avoid a
>>>> lot of confusion in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> The difference in mapping between old and new cable in a table:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ch# on HV board || ch# on old cable  || new cable  || fadc#
>>>> 24              || 1                 || 1          || 1
>>>> 23                 2                    2             2
>>>> 22                 3                    3             3
>>>> 21                 4                    4             4
>>>> 20                 5                    5             5
>>>> 19                 6                    6             6
>>>> 18                 7                    7             7
>>>> 17                 8                    8             8
>>>> 16                 9                   17 !
>>>> 15                10                   18
>>>> 14                11                   19
>>>> 13                12                   20
>>>> 12                13                   21
>>>> 11                14                   22
>>>> 10                15                   23
>>>> 9                 16                   24
>>>> 8                 17                    9 !           9
>>>> 7                 18                   10            10
>>>> 6                 19                   11            11
>>>> 5                 20                   12            12
>>>> 4                 21                   13            13
>>>> 3                 22                   14            14
>>>> 2                 23                   15            15
>>>> 1                 24                   16            16
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> So the possition of two chips have been swapped on the cable, was this
>>>> deliberate?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>     Yves
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