[Moller_intdet] summer students

[Krishna Kumar]

Hi, I am out of town today, but back in my office all of next week so it should be possible to set up a phone meeting.
Cheers, KK

On Jun 10, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Michael Gericke wrote:

> Hi Juliette,
> 
> I want to have a phone call with Wim and KK to discuss the
> possibility of applying for a small equipment grant through
> NSERC this fall. If this goes ahead (and I don't see a reason
> why  not) then Rob would be the one to write (with my help)
> the grant proposal this summer.
> 
> So what has to happen first this summer are a few
> simulations for the geometries that KK and his group
> now have in the CAD and the development of some
> prototype assembly design; something that can be put
> into the hall for testing when we have beam, without
> disturbing the running experiment. In addition, since this
> is a benchmarking exercise, I think it would be nice to
> build a prototype ion chamber, just to see if the resolution
> for GeV electrons is really that poor and to see how sensitive
> they are to background. This is a little more complicated (as
> Dave pointed out to me) since this involves building a pressure
> vessel which has to satisfy the JLab used engineering code.
> So someone would have to go talk to a JLab engineer about
> that.
> 
> The design and simulations can then be used in the proposal.
> 
> 
> What we need for the proposal:
> 
> 1) Purpose and goal:
>     That one is easy: benchmark simulations and
>      selection of detector material/geometry etc ...
> 
> 2) Physics and working principle:
>    This should be clear!
> 
> 3) Time line:
>     There is not much room to play with. If the proposal
>     gets put in this fall and ends up being successful, then the
>     money  would be available April 1st, 2012. I have some
>     money (about 10k - 20k) available now to get started, which I would
>     replace in April, if the grant is successful, but the major question
>     is how expensive the quartz pieces will be and how long it would
>     take to get them after the order is placed. The people I
>     know of who might have an estimate of these are Dave Mack
>     and Mark Pitt.
> 
> 4) Cost estimates (with quotes):
>    - Two quartz pieces for each geometry (how many are there ?)
>    - Suitable PMTs and divider hardware (this may all be stuff that can
>      be found at the lab already, but is should be in the proposal for
>      completeness and because it is good to show that some of the
>      costs are covered by other source ... leverage)
>    - Any other hardware needed
>    - DAQ: use a free qweak MD channel ?
> 
> 5) Manpower
>    - You
>    - Rob
>    - Students
>      Summer students are fine, but it would be good if a Canadian
>      graduate student was involved for HQP (training of highly qualified
>      personnel accounting)  which increases the chances for grant success.
>      I am thinking about Scott at some small fraction of his time.
> 
> So, to answer your question Juliette, I would say it is clear that there is
> work to be done this summer, but I am not sure it will be hardware work
> (yet).
> 
> If anyone has any ideas or suggestion, please let me know.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/06/2011 8:39 AM, Juliette Mammei wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>> 
>> I am going to be mentoring at least one high school summer student.  I think that he will work on a simulation project for MOLLER, either for the main detectors specifically or looking at the photon backgrounds or something like that.
>> 
>> There is another student who needs a mentor; is there a possibility to have her do some work on the prototype detector over the summer?  If so, then I am willing to handle the business side of things to mentor her as well, unless Rob wants to do it himself... I think it will be a good experience.
>> 
>> Talk to you later,
>> 
>> Juliette
> 
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