[Isotope-prod] [EXTERNAL] Re: information from announcement

[Geoffrey Krafft]

Hi George,

I now know you to be one of two human beings

(I'm the other!) to have actually read the FOA

through! The same problem arose in the collider R&D FOA.

We chose to write to 38 pages (1.5 times 25) for the R&D, under

the assumption that this was correct, and if the DOE gave us

trouble, the 38 pages was documented! Another problem

that we observed in the R&D FOA: the supplemental cover page for

collaborations is implied to be not counted in the 38,

but is not explicitly stated to be exempt from the page

limit.


You suggest the correct course of action: obtain clarification!

On both those items!

Geoff


On 5/6/2016 8:30 AM, George Neil wrote:
>
> To add to the confusion:
>
> The page limit of the project narrative according to the Lab 
> announcement is limited to *a)* 10 pages (see page 10 top)  or *b)* 25 
> pages  (see page 14, first paragraph)  or *c)* since it is a 
> collaborative proposal,  50% more than either a) or b)   (see bold box 
> page 15)
>
> We will need to request clarification.
>
> George
>
>
>
> On 5/5/2016 12:01 PM, George Neil wrote:
>> Good plan!
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/2016 11:19 AM, Sundaresan Gobalakrishnan wrote:
>>> Thanks for the heads-up. We will look closely at the details of the 
>>> application submission process.
>>>
>>> Let us target our submissions to be completed by June 24th, a week 
>>> before the actual deadline.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Sundaresan
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Isotope-prod [mailto:isotope-prod-bounces at jlab.org] On Behalf 
>>> Of George Neil
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 10:43 AM
>>> To: isotope-prod at jlab.org
>>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Isotope-prod] information from announcement
>>>
>>> Geoff is right.   Though my Lab announcement said all should be
>>> submitted through PAMS the companion announcement says grants.gov.
>>> Sorry for the confusion.
>>>
>>> George
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/2016 10:39 AM, Geoffrey A. Krafft wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> The university collaborators probably need to go to
>>>>
>>>> grants.gov
>>>>
>>>> We just completed a similar collaborative proposal
>>>>
>>>> for the Jefferson Lab collider with university collaborators,
>>>>
>>>> and they were submitted there. It is important to
>>>>
>>>> read the university companion announcement.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/2016 10:17 AM, George Neil wrote:
>>>>> A few quick points from the RFP:
>>>>>
>>>>> Our collaboration is to submit an (almost) identical proposal from
>>>>> each institution.   The guts of the proposals, title, etc., must be
>>>>> identical.  The only differences will be the individual budgets and
>>>>> budget justifications and a cover sheet appropriate to the
>>>>> institution.  Our university partners are to follow the non-DOE lab
>>>>> announcement guidance for preparing the budgetary information.  The
>>>>> proposals must be submitted through the DOE PAMS system. Your
>>>>> institution has to be registered in it to submit as does the PI.
>>>>> Don't wait to the last minute to register. Instructions are in the
>>>>> package I forwarded.
>>>>>
>>>>> The total technical narrative (proposed research, timetable, key
>>>>> responsibilities) is only 10 pages but doesn't include biographical
>>>>> sketches, current support, bibliography, facilities, equipment, and
>>>>> data management plan.
>>>>>
>>>>> All institutions must submit before 5PM EDT July 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> George
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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