[G12] g12 publication authorship recommendation

[Eugene Pasyuk]

The discussion sounds Orwellian 
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others 

-Eugene 

> From: "Paul Eugenio" <peugenio at fsu.edu>
> To: "Volker Crede" <vcrede at fsu.edu>
> Cc: "g12 at jlab.org g12 at jlab.org" <g12 at jlab.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:42:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [G12] g12 publication authorship recommendation

> Again, I think there is some misunderstanding and over reaction. In hindsight,
> proper choice of wording such as lead authors and ordering as apposed to First
> and second lead author lists likely would have clarified the recommendation.

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>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Volker Crede < vcrede at fsu.edu > wrote:

>> Good Morning,

>> I agree with Susan’s question(s). A novel approach to CLAS authorship needs to
>> go through the CLAS Coordinating Committee and requires a collaboration-wide
>> discussion.

>> I don’t see what we are trying to accomplish here. There was nothing special
>> about the g12 experiment that would justify a new authorship procedure. Quite
>> the contrary, the proposed unique approach would raise all kinds of ethical
>> concerns. From a personal point of view, I already find the usual
>> first-authorship system somewhat questionable. A three-tier system would give
>> extra credit to the g12 run group but simultaneously, would send a strong
>> message to the rest of the collaboration.

>> Please remove the FSU people from the secondary lead author list.

>> Best wishes,

>> Volker

>>> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:21 AM, Susan Schadmand < s.schadmand at fz-juelich.de >
>>> wrote:

>>> Hi Lei,

>>> just a naive question - why do we need this, is the authorship not defined via
>>> rules of the collaboration?
>>> Regards,
>>> Su.

>>> Susan Schadmand www.fz-juelich.de/ikp
>>> On 17.10.17 22:30, Lei Guo wrote:

>>>> As promised, please check the summary for today’s discussion on the g12
>>>> publication authorship. Please let me know if you see some wording that needs
>>>> to be changed.

>>>> https://clasweb.jlab.org/rungroups/g12/wiki/index.php/Dissertations_and_Publications#g12_publication_authorship_recommendation

>>>> Thanks!

>>>> Lei

>>>> Lei Guo
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>>>> Physics Department
>>>> Florida International University
>>>> Miami, FL

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